Would You Wear A Po Black With A Suite

[wadan]

Would you wear a PO Black with a suite and a dress shirt with cufflinks ?

See ,,,the P.O “ as you all know “ is a great daily beater , and since I am in a suite 90% of the time . I am thinking of wearing it with the suite ,

What do you think ?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts

[Pugwash]

Would you wear a PO Black with a suite and a dress shirt with cufflinks ?

I'd wear a Planet Ocean with a suit, as long as it had the steel bracelet.

[yt74]

I do it all the time, 45mm no less!

[FxrAndy]

I would have no problem with this at all

[slowlearner]

Yes, I have a 45.5 mm PO with black bezel, white numerals, and stainless bracelet and it looks good with a suit or with blue jeans.

[section8]

I think it would look great. Bracelet or leather strap.

[flavor flav]

looks great with a suit! i like to wear my orange PO with an orange dress shirt and tie and a black suit. get's alot of compliments. the black you can wear with anything.

[b16a2]

Yes definitely! The PO is a very versatile watch! Would look good for any occasion!

Edited February 28, 2007 by b16a2

[fotoman]

it is one of the best watches of all time on the forum

[Ethan]

NO; I would not.

You certainly can if you like, but if you care at all about business etiquette, the dress calls for a watch with a leather strap. Business casual has gone too casual, and the metal watch with a suit is too pervasive these days. If you're middle-management, or will be spending your day with subordinates, then go ahead and wear your PO, sub, Navi - whatever. But if you're sitting with the EC or are in a closing, wearing a metal watch with your suit simply indicates that you don't know any better.

[Corgi]

I think there are certainly more appropriate pieces to choose while wearing a suite, but that depends on your style and your personality. Personally, I would go for something like a Patek or Vacheron which demonstrate class and elegance... but never a PO (though if I were to wear a PO, black would be the most appropriate color).

So, to reiterate, no, I would not wear that watch with a suit ever. (Exception would be the PO Professional Chrono which I have, and I do)

[jonthebhoy]

It's that versatile.......I'd wear it with a tu-tu...........if I were so inclined.............which I'm not...............so spare me the funnies..............okay!

JTB

[Pugwash]

You certainly can if you like, but if you care at all about business etiquette, the dress calls for a watch with a leather strap. Business casual has gone too casual, and the metal watch with a suit is too pervasive these days.

James Bond in Casino Royale wears a SS Seamaster in a dinner jacket. Sorry, but that trumps any old rules we may have had up until then.

[eddhead]

I'd wear a Planet Ocean with a suit, as long as it had the steel bracelet.

I wear my 42MM with a leather strap and a suit and it looks great. I will let you know about the 45MM when it arrives

[eddhead]

NO; I would not.

Business casual has gone too casual, and the metal watch with a suit is too pervasive these days.

Really? well today i am wearing a gen 5513 with a nice blue suit, and it looks great. Not only that but this morning I was sitting accross from my boss, who is an executive level manager. He was wearing his Pesi GMT with a dark blue suit (probably a brooks bros.) and it looked pretty damn good to me too. Both with metal bracelets.

I know people in pretty high income groups but I do not know too many people who own genuine VC's

[Ethan]

James Bond in Casino Royale wears a SS Seamaster in a dinner jacket. Sorry, but that trumps any old rules we may have had up until then.

It's I who am sorry Pug; still a no-go. I was waiting for the whole Bond-sub-Omega-thing to pop up as an example (as it invariably does in these situations). The funny thing about Bond in a tuxedo with a watch (and a metal one, at that), is that it is improper etiquette to wear ANY watch with a dinner jacket (or tuxedo, or tails). Semi-formal (tux or dinner jacket) and formal (tails) are to be worn at State functions or high-festivities; you are to be unconcerned with the time, because you're having such a good time. The wearing of a watch is rude to the host, as what you're saying is that you (at some point) have somewhere better to be. Either that, or you are at someone else's beck-and-call, and are required to wear a watch so that they do not have to. Either way, it's a faux-pas. With Bond it's okay, because he needs to use it as a laser, or garrote, or keep an eye on what time something's going to blow up. For him, it's practical. For you, it's just plain rude.

Really? well today i am wearing a gen 5513 with a nice blue suit, and it looks great. Not only that but this morning I was sitting accross from my boss, who is an executive level manager. He was wearing his Pesi GMT with a dark blue suit (probably a brooks bros.) and it looked pretty damn good to me too. Both with metal bracelets.

Great. Super. Good for you. If your boss comes in tomorrow with a balloon on his head, does that make it acceptable? As I said, if he's the manager, and you're the minion, then it's just barely acceptable. But with the Board? No chance.

Look guys; style is an ever-changing subject, and it's open to interpretation by anyone. But the fact of the matter is until we're all wearing plastic-wrap to the office, there are established protocols for business dress. And I for one like 'em. They're part of our traditions, and I hate to lose our traditions. I'm sure that there's a whole bundle of etiquette about who can wear a kilt, in which occasions, in what tartan - and all the accompanying accessories. I have no idea what those protocols are, but I know they're there; they're part of tradition. Is Fat Bastard the arbiter now of Scottish dress?

I'm a Bond FANATIC, but there's no way the Wardrobe Mistress employed to dress the actor in the movies is going to subvert business etiquette and tell me how to dress.

Period.

[jonthebhoy]

I'm a Bond FANATIC, but there's no way the Wardrobe Mistress employed to dress the actor in the movies is going to subvert business etiquette and tell me how to dress.

Period.

Maybe not but isn't your argument a little contradictory in the sense that you are presenting and supporting someone elses conventions as the basis of what you feel people ought to wear and on what occasion?

JTB

[Pugwash]

Semi-formal (tux or dinner jacket) and formal (tails) are to be worn at State functions or high-festivities; you are to be unconcerned with the time, because you're having such a good time. The wearing of a watch is rude to the host, as what you're saying is that you (at some point) have somewhere better to be.

Just for a laugh, I trawled a pile of state dinner photos (for some reason, lots of Reagan era ones) and saw a plethora of watches on the wrists of dignitaries and guests.

[Ethan]

Maybe not but isn't your argument a little contradictory in the sense that you are presenting and supporting someone elses conventions as the basis of what you feel people ought to wear and on what occasion?

Absolutely. Only there's a key difference... On my side, I've got a hundred years of established etiquette. On the Wardrobe Mistress' side, she's got a tied sponsorship between the franchise and Omega.

Let's not forget that wrist watches (on men, at least) were unheard of prior to the very end of the 1800s; soldiers were the only ones to wear them, as pocket watches (which were the timekeeping device of choice for all Gentlemen) were a nuisance on the battlefield. They did catch on, and started becoming more common by 1905-1915. That trend, and the etiquette that accompanied it, has progressed into what we have today. There's no question that in my lifetime the leather-strapped dress watch will share equal acceptability with (and may actually be supplanted by) the all-metal watch in an EC environment. Such are the tides of change.

But for right now, at this moment, tradition still holds for many the time-honored rules of etiquette intact. And those rules say "no PO in the Boardroom" - Bond or not. You can do it if you like - there's no friggin' machine gun that drops out of the ceiling and blasts you to bits if you try - but the psychology of business tells us that what you're saying if you do to those that DO know is either, "I have no idea", or, "I really don't give a sh*t". And neither is a good start to whatever you want to accomplish in THAT room...

[Ethan]

Just for a laugh, I trawled a pile of state dinner photos (for some reason, lots of Reagan era ones) and saw a plethora of watches on the wrists of dignitaries and guests.

Yeah, but you did say Reagan-era, didn't you?

[Pugwash]

Yeah, but you did say Reagan-era, didn't you?

Ok, and I found Bush-era ones too. You want me to find Clinton-era ones as well?

Your rules are outdated, by the way.

[HauteHippie]

I'd wear a Planet Ocean with a suit, as long as it had the steel bracelet.

Definitely! Pug's point is good, though. Don't try pulling it off with a rubber bracelet!

[jkerouac]

Alas I don't spend much time in the board room, so it probably doesn't matter. In my company even the top execs are relatively casual and seldom wear suits.

Aside from the question "can a PO be worn with a suit?" I think you also need to ask what kind of business you are in. If it is a conservative financial business, you should be more conservative. If you are in engineering, then a more technical look might be just the ticket. And if you are in the fashion business, then a more explicit style is appropriate, but explicit in terms of the nature of the business. Say you work in an art gallery. I would argue that even the type of art gallery (conservative, traditional, avant garde, pop) would allow for a different answer to what kind of watch to wear with a suit. Dare one even utter the word Silberstein?

[olivia]

All 22 posts are useless. You have to ask a woman. Where is ISO?

[Ethan]

Your rules are outdated, by the way.

Again, I'm sorry Pug; you're simply not correct here. I cede to your experience in all-things-rep-watch, but this is my area of expertise. I'm giving my insight and advice on a topic I know very, very well. It's not about being right here; I see it as a kind of responsibility that we post something that can benefit the whole board as a ‘thank-you’ for what we take out of it. But what the hell can I help out the board with? I'd love it if my contribution could be about movements, or vintage Rollies, or photography; I just don't have as much experience with those segments as the experts - yourself included - and would merely be cluttering the board with speculation and nonsense.

But I what I can help with is not looking like a complete tool in a multitude of global business environments; I can help with the business psychology behind what you wear, with what watch, and in what situation.

Now, I know what some of you are thinking: you’re thinking, “I know what the hell to wear, you smarmy asshat! I don’t need you to tell me how to pair my watch with my clothes! Who do you think you are, anyway?” That’s a valid question; after all, Rob proves his expertise with every watch he services.

So let me tell you a little about why you can trust the advice I can give you… I own eleven companies; they’re stretched from the Isle of Man, to Nevada, to New York, to Toronto, to the B.V.I. I build the software that drives International web-based financial transactions. I make feature films. I create the television programs that you watch everyday. I have sat in boardrooms with everyone from Ted Turner, to David Geffen, to Steve Bahmer, to Tim Gannon, to the Bad-Boy from Down-Under himself – Rupert Murdoch. Yet I am neither famous, nor of any global consequence; were I gone tomorrow, ten other entrepreneurs would take my place before the seat was even cold. The point is not to brag about my accomplishments; the point is to give you the confidence that what I’m telling you is valid and real, and that the application of the underlying psychology will actually get you farther in your business life.

So let me help.