Your Favourite Soccer Goals

[docblackrock]

England has scored a goal against Brazil? Wow, that was news to me.

No, not England. John Barnes 1 Brazil 0. In the same way it was Germany 1 Liverpool 5 back in 2001, you remember that one surely?

[Mickey Padge]

This is like a guesssing game

Please fix your YT links!

Mickey, I'm assuming this is Digger Barnes in the Maracana??? Even Brazilians say this is one of the best goals ever scored in Brazil.

Yep you guessed the clip I meant

When I quoted you to reply, I realised my mistake in linking to the video with the full www. link.

Edited October 25, 2007 by Mickey Padge

[Mickey Padge]

No, not England. John Barnes 1 Brazil 0. In the same way it was Germany 1 Liverpool 5 back in 2001, you remember that one surely?

Ah those were the days, I remember them well.......

Back then England players knew what that little round bouncy thing was, they even put it in the rectangular net every now and then. Only by happenstance though of course

[Mickey Padge]

Now this guy could play......

Edited October 25, 2007 by Mickey Padge

[cornerstone]

Tell me he was not the greatest player who ever kicked a ball.

(Sorry if you are English)

Here's Hyster's link:

[cornerstone]

Not a brilliant goal by any stretch of the imagination but very very clever.

Rangers V Celtic May 2007 where Charlie Adam waiting to take a free kick spotted the Celtic keeper (aka the Holy Goalie) telling the defensive wall to jump. Charlie decided to play the free kick under the wall making the keeper look like a tw*t (again).

And here's Del's link:

[ironmarshal]

My favorite is the goal by Ole Gunnar Solsjkaer to clinch the treble for Man Utd. Not a beautiful goal, but it capped a miracle comeback and the treble was an amazing feat.

[Emmzy]

At last a mention of Georgie Best.

His quotes were great............

'I've spent most of my money on women and drink........the rest I wasted'

Classic!

[docblackrock]

At last a mention of Georgie Best.

Best for me pished his talent away badly so does not deserve his place amongst the true greats like Pele, Maradona, Puskas, and Zidane. Those guys also did it on the WORLD stage. Best should have stayed at the Scum. Moving down to London away from the fatherly guidance of Matt Busby, he was the first in the line of "champagne Charlies" - players who were more interested in a lavish lifestyle and were more often on the cover of newspapers than the sports pages. He spawned this phenomenon (the Ashley Cole types). Not a great legacy to leave . Sad that he's remembered for that more (wasting his own talent) than he is for his football.

Still, here's the old cliche'd clip of him dribbling through an entire defence...note it WAS the North American Soccer League in the 70s though

[docblackrock]

I'm far too young of course, but I recall my father (another Pele fanatic) raving about the time he attended an amazing World Cup QF and saw a player that was the Brazilian's equal.....Eus

[Victoria]

Best for me pished his talent away badly so does not deserve his place amongst the true greats like Pele, Maradona, Puskas, and Zidane. Those guys also did it on the WORLD stage.

I'm afraid I agree. His entire slide into alcoholism and sleeziness was depressing to see, and that was as a mere spectator. In so many ways, he reminds me of Garrincha (who my father considers greater than Maradona, and note, he also nearly single-handedly took Brazil to another WC title in 1962, when Pel

[Victoria]

I'm far too young of course, but I recall my father (another Pele fanatic) raving about the time he attended an amazing World Cup QF and saw a player that was the Brazilian's equal.....Eus

[Victoria]

My favorite is the goal by Ole Gunnar Solsjkaer to clinch the treble for Man Utd. Not a beautiful goal, but it capped a miracle comeback and the treble was an amazing feat.

Ahh, gaaaa, bad memories of Man United scoring flukey goals to win it on the last gasp, during the whole of the 1990s, gaaa. Choke. Sputter.

Mind you, that was a cracking equaliser by my favourite player.

[Victoria]

Arnt we forgetting the late and greatest George Best.

Pele even said that George Best was the greatest, even though he threw it away it alcohol

As you have seen, I love me some Pel

[Victoria]

Meilleur joueur europ

[docblackrock]

Yikes, so much to respond to VB...

1. The Scum are simply THE Scum, no matter who you belong to. They are known by that name by many many clubs. I must admit they have had some deserved success, albeit begrugingly, but they are still the Scum. Epitomised by that "knight of the realm" () - an alcoholic bullying hypocrite with an inferiority complex at the helm who thinks he's bigger than the game itself and whose tactical skills are confined to where to hide his morning whisky bottles. Yes I detest them, but it's nothing compared to my abhorrence of all things Chelsea and everything that club stands for....hence, Chav Scum - a fitting nickname

2. Sorry but the NASL quip was appropriate as the NASL standard was unimaginably inferior to Europe/S.America. Beckenbauer? Shuffling along on his Zimmer frame by then, playing for his pension plan, just as they do these days in Qatar. Nothing much has changed with the MLS, as Beckham must horribly realise by now, not that his obnoxious wife cares about his career

3. Teddy Sheringham? Your favourite player??? You've got to be bloody joking

4. Yes, sadly Pele is a certifiable nut. I remember the mad predictions, like Columbia. But what I hate most is seeming lack of integrity, or maybe it's just opinions. He'll say anything about anything or anyone, whatever they want to hear, just name your price. Like endorsing Viagra or claiming Wayne Rooney would win England the World Cup in 2006 In other words, the perfect politician

5. I don't think Eusebio is doing too badly considering. He hasn't been "forgotten" in the way that Puskas was. His circumstances at the end were truly shocking and so very sad to see - only a too-little too-late gesture by Real Madrid his former club, spared him further indignity. Compare his plight with that of Di Stefano, one of his peers, but who went on to become the club's figurehead.

6. Zidane - sorry V but internet age or not, the man is/was a genius. As close as anyone has come to Pele in transcending the sport. A symbol of both France AND Algeria (no rare feat!).

Suggest you watch, Zidane, un portrait du 21e si

[Victoria]

Yikes, so much to respond to VB...

I was without internet for a WHOLE 16 HOURS, DBR. It was torture!

1. The Scum are simply THE Scum, no matter who you belong to.

Certainly not. Why, will become apparent later on when I post my Wristies.

(In fact, I've yet to shoot them. They'll have to wait, as it's pouring rain here)

They are known by that name by many many clubs. I must admit they have had some deserved success, albeit begrugingly, but they are still the Scum.

I agree they have some deserved success. Flukey or not, real champions always know how to pull one out of no where, when needs be.

Epitomised by that "knight of the realm" () - an alcoholic bullying hypocrite with an inferiority complex at the helm who thinks he's bigger than the game itself and whose tactical skills are confined to where to hide his morning whisky bottles.

Yuck. Makes a travesty of anything achieved by Sir Matt Busby...

Yes I detest them, but it's nothing compared to my abhorrence of all things Chelsea and everything that club stands for....hence, Chav Scum - a fitting nickname

I am in the unfortunate position of being the only cousin in my family who does not support Chelsea. All the rest of the Esher-living, Brie-eating, champers-imbibing typical Rent Boys-loving kin, do.

My cousin serving in Afghanistan actually took his Chelsea shirt, flag and other tschokes there, and draped it over his whole tent-quarters. May God forgive us.

EDIT: BTW, my father highly dislikes any club from London, including mine. He's a Stoke supporter, and also used to like Bristol City. (Wait for it) And still does.

2. Sorry but the NASL quip was appropriate as the NASL standard was unimaginably inferior to Europe/S.America. Beckenbauer? Shuffling along on his Zimmer frame by then, playing for his pension plan, just as they do these days in Qatar. Nothing much has changed with the MLS, as Beckham must horribly realise by now, not that his obnoxious wife cares about his career

DO NOT dare equate the NASL with MLS. In so many ways, the former was so much better than the latter, although I for one am thankful that MLS today do not have to rely on foreign star-power (save Becks) for their league. They are doing the best thing they can for their own players' growth, and experience. Thank goodness.

As for that other Victoria B...well, we had a recent thread about that, didn't we. I made my feelings plain.

3. Teddy Sheringham? Your favourite player??? You've got to be bloody joking

Ever since his Millwall days...

You watch him be England manager one day. Mark me.

4. Yes, sadly Pele is a certifiable nut. I remember the mad predictions, like Columbia. But what I hate most is seeming lack of integrity, or maybe it's just opinions. He'll say anything about anything or anyone, whatever they want to hear, just name your price. Like endorsing Viagra or claiming Wayne Rooney would win England the World Cup in 2006 In other words, the perfect politician

The man is Brazilian, black, was born to a family of 10 kids, and was so poor growing up, he improvised by making his father's socks into "footballs".

Hope he rakes the money in, buys three more penthouses in NYC, and does Viagra adverts until he dies.

5. I don't think Eusebio is doing too badly considering. He hasn't been "forgotten" in the way that Puskas was. His circumstances at the end were truly shocking and so very sad to see - only a too-little too-late gesture by Real Madrid his former club, spared him further indignity. Compare his plight with that of Di Stefano, one of his peers, but who went on to become the club's figurehead.

I find it curious how sometimes this happens, don't you? One player lauded, one almost exiled or an afterthought. Same with Puskas in Real Madrid versus Sandor Kocsis in Barcelona...the latter is considered near saint there. Puskas, though admired and remembered, will always be second (third?) banana to Di Stefano at Real.

6. Zidane - sorry V but internet age or not, the man is/was a genius. As close as anyone has come to Pele in transcending the sport. A symbol of both France AND Algeria (no rare feat!).

Suggest you watch, Zidane, un portrait du 21e si

[docblackrock]

Some great Puskas info...

"Look at that little fat chap. We'll murder this lot." In the long and inglorious annals of great British sporting disasters, few judgments have been wider of the mark than this remark from an England player, about to take the field at Wembley in 1953.

Ninety minutes later Hungary had slaughtered England 6-3. They were the first foreign team to inflict defeat on England at Wembley. And what a defeat. It wasn't just the score. The style of football played by the Magnificent Magyars might as well have come from another planet. England, self-styled masters of the game, were humiliated.

The "little fat chap" was Ferenc Puskas, the Hungarian captain. Indeed, he was an odd looking footballer. He was short, stocky, barrel-chested, overweight, couldn't head and only used one foot. Yet no one in Britain had seen ball skills like his as he inspired a performance that completely demolished England's reputation as a world football power.

Puskas was known as the Galloping Major, a reference to the fact that he was an army officer playing for an army team. Later, when he was exiled in Spain with Real Madrid, he became known as the little cannon. For that one foot, his left, packed such a thunderbolt shot that he scored 83 goals in 84 internationals and he remains the only player to have scored four goals in a European Cup Final, one of three triumphs in the competition.

[ironmarshal]

I was without internet for a WHOLE 16 HOURS, DBR. It was torture!

Certainly not. Why, will become apparent later on when I post my Wristies.

(In fact, I've yet to shoot them. They'll have to wait, as it's pouring rain here)

I agree they have some deserved success. Flukey or not, real champions always know how to pull one out of no where, when needs be.

Yuck. Makes a travesty of anything achieved by Sir Matt Busby...

I am in the unfortunate position of being the only cousin in my family who does not support Chelsea. All the rest of the Esher-living, Brie-eating, champers-imbibing typical Rent Boys-loving kin, do.

My cousin serving in Afghanistan actually took his Chelsea shirt, flag and other tschokes there, and draped it over his whole tent-quarters. May God forgive us.

EDIT: BTW, my father highly dislikes any club from London, including mine. He's a Stoke supporter, and also used to like Bristol City. (Wait for it) And still does.

DO NOT dare equate the NASL with MLS. In so many ways, the former was so much better than the latter, although I for one am thankful that MLS today do not have to rely on foreign star-power (save Becks) for their league. They are doing the best thing they can for their own players' growth, and experience. Thank goodness.

As for that other Victoria B...well, we had a recent thread about that, didn't we. I made my feelings plain.

Ever since his Millwall days...

You watch him be England manager one day. Mark me.

The man is Brazilian, black, was born to a family of 10 kids, and was so poor growing up, he improvised by making his father's socks into "footballs".

Hope he rakes the money in, buys three more penthouses in NYC, and does Viagra adverts until he dies.

I find it curious how sometimes this happens, don't you? One player lauded, one almost exiled or an afterthought. Same with Puskas in Real Madrid versus Sandor Kocsis in Barcelona...the latter is considered near saint there. Puskas, though admired and remembered, will always be second (third?) banana to Di Stefano at Real.

You think the girl who is a film AND footie buff hasn't?

I am a fan of Zizou.

I do agree he's the best European player of the past 20 years. But I think Platini was a better overall player, who sadly, didn't do with his France side what Zidane did with his -- I was present in the WC 1998 Final, and will never forget his goals in that match.

Hope he re-establishes himself though, because he was a nasty player.

Sorry to hear about you cousins supporting Chelsea....at least Man Utd have historically kept the core of their squad from the British Isles, unlike Chelsea and Arsenal....hard to find and Englishman on the pitch when they play!

And vbarett I do agree with you about Sheringham, I could see him as England manager someday. Classy guy, not one of thouse publicity seeking hounds who pretend to be footballers.

[Victoria]

Sorry to hear about you cousins supporting Chelsea....at least Man Utd have historically kept the core of their squad from the British Isles, unlike Chelsea and Arsenal....hard to find and Englishman on the pitch when they play!

Ahh, a difficult topic, rent with xenophobic possibilities in our isle...(not that I am saying you are, Ironmarshall! Personally, just that I may be anti-multi-culturalism, but I am not anti-immigrant or foreigner, per se).

And vbarett I do agree with you about Sheringham, I could see him as England manager someday. Classy guy, not one of thouse publicity seeking hounds who pretend to be footballers.

Except for the whole Jordan thing, agreed. He also can speak well and not sound like some Harlow chav-duffer tripping over his words...

[docblackrock]

Yuck. Makes a travesty of anything achieved by Sir Matt Busby...

Never mind Busby, I was referring to 'Sir' Bob Paisley, winner of 8 league titles, 3 European Cups....yet never honoured by his country. Disgraceful

I am in the unfortunate position of being the only cousin in my family who does not support Chelsea. All the rest of the Esher-living, Brie-eating, champers-imbibing typical Rent Boys-loving kin, do.

I'm betting none had ever been near the Bridge pre-Abramovich? Gloryhunters make me sick. I have friends in Cobham and I refuse to visit as the whole place reeks of the club. Nouveau riche ignorant inbreds. Sorry just my unbiased opinion

DO NOT dare equate the NASL with MLS. In so many ways, the former was so much better than the latter, although I for one am thankful that MLS today do not have to rely on foreign star-power (save Becks) for their league.

I beg to differ. Why else is Beckham's obscene salary being paid for partly by the MLS??? Will it work? That remains to be seen IMO. Journeymen European players like Abel Xavier and other pension-seekers will not help.

Ever since his Millwall days...You watch him be England manager one day. Mark me.

I'll bet you anything you like he doesn't. And Millwall?!

The man is Brazilian, black, was born to a family of 10 kids, and was so poor growing up, he improvised by making his father's socks into "footballs".Hope he rakes the money in, buys three more penthouses in NYC, and does Viagra adverts until he dies.

Hmm, I'd rather he keep his mouth shut and use his fame and fortune to do something more worthwhile and useful than take the advertising dollar and buy up Manhattan real estate. I'm sure he does only we don't hear of it due to the 'circus' that surrounds him.

Puskas, though admired and remembered, will always be second (third?) banana to Di Stefano at Real.

Funny, he was only 'remembered' when he was weeks away from dying of pneumonia in a run-down Budapest hospital. As I said, too little too late.

I am a fan of Zizou. I do agree he's the best European player of the past 20 years. But I think Platini was a better overall player, who sadly, didn't do with his France side what Zidane did with his.

Platini? Not even close IMO. As you rightly point out, never inspired his team almost signle-handedly to the ultimate victory. A very good player but not a great one. Even as a person, I'll take ZZ's occasional flashes of temper over what has become of the snidey Platini, Blatter's puppet at UEFA. Even in '85 he showed he only cared about winning the "match that should never have taken place" rather than what was more important.

Hope he re-establishes himself though, because he was a nasty player.

Errr, how exactly do you think he'll re-establish himself? I don't think he has anything left to prove. No MLS for him. He's like Cantona. Out at the top however the exit. On his terms. For most players, they'd like one final say after what went down that night in the 2006 Final. But not Zidane. Just wired differently, it's that simple. And for that I'm glad. "Nasty player"? What a load of crap. The classic flawed hero, that's all.

[By-Tor]

I also agree that Zidane was better and more complete player than Platini. Though I wonder how much more impressive Platini's legacy in people's mind would be, if they won the 1982 penalty shootout against West Germany.

One of the best matches ever by the way. And it proves that anyone who's surname is Schumacher is an asshat. That surname also guarantees that you can get away from any kind of cheat without punishment.

[docblackrock]

One of the best matches ever by the way. And it proves that anyone who's surname is Schumacher is an asshat. That surname also guarantees that you can get away from any kind of cheat without punishment.

Absolutely agree. Easily the worst 'professional' foul I ever saw. How he never even got a yellow card is unbelievable. I mean that could have killed Battiston, and I'm not exaggerating. A reminder, judge for yourself....

[Emmzy]

Lots of Chelsea bashing eh!

I first went to the Bridge in 1967 and saw the Chelsea team of Osgood, Cooke, Houseman, Harris, Bonetti etc. I started playing semi professionally and went to midweek games when I could. A bad injury forced me to retire 20 years ago. Up until my move to Spain and a love of all things Valencia (Pablo Aimar still doing it for Zaragossa) I had a season ticket in the East Stand. Please never accuse me or my pals of jumping on the 'Abramovic bandwagon'.

My fave era was that of Vialli, Gullit, Poyet, Wise, Lebouef, Desailly, Chapi Ferrer, Petrescu, Hughes and the most under rated Robbie Di Matteo.......42 seconds at Wembley.....what a moment that was, what a goal, all those years without silverware. We left Wembley 3 hours after the final whistle.

Todays Chelsea is different, less flare etc. but they win things!

I think you will find that Avram will change the style of play....he's under orders to do so. Wait until the January transfer window and he'll bring in his own men...Roman can afford them!

For me Arsenal are the team to watch, could give a damn about where these players come from.....they are glorious to see. United are as strong as they've ever been and Liverpool need to be more consistent and convincing.

Lovely to see the passion here.....that's what the beautiful game does to you!!!

V. Teddy is a great guy but I can tell you he has no intention of managing anyone.....seeing his days out at Colchester right now and heading to a non football rest of his life.

Next England manager.......Martin Jol....no, sorry......Jos

Edited October 26, 2007 by Emmzy

[docblackrock]

Emmzy, no worries, old school Chelsea is fine with me I know several of you lot who admit privately they REALLY don't like how the club has changed, but they're content to win things for a change. It's the other types V describes. I see many of them, work colleagues mostly. So-called 'fans' who know little or nothing about the club. Then there's the other lot, the nasty element, the ones seen on Sky, grown men screaming with rage at Mourinho's departure.

I had a lot of time for old school Chelsea, not as far back as you, but the Italian brigade, Vialli, Zola, Di Matteo, even Ranieri. But the current lot and what the club stand for, just make me and a lot of neutrals want to vomit. Despicable is not too strong a word. Nor is unsporting. You've become the most hated club throughout Europe, and no that's not financial jealousy talking, it's the way everyone connected with the club represents themselves. How to lose friends and alienate people. The Barca matches, the racism, the death threats, the ref baiting, disrespecting opposition etc. Mourinho was particularly bad, but I think a lot of it stems from that most oily and obnoxious of men, Peter Kenyon.

As for the Gooners, well I don't think they've played a half-decent team yet at home or in Europe (Sevilla don't count for obvious reasons). Sunday will be very interesting!!!

How're Los Che looking this season then? Haven't caught their games so far. But as you can see from my first post in this thread, I too have a soft spot for them, even if Aimar has now left. We have a couple of their boys still in Momo and Aurelio (who wears a PAM90) and I must admit I preferred Villa to Torres arriving in the summer but am slowly being won around. Silva is class and it's nice to see Nando Morientes back on song....still hurts that he never really settled with us