docblackrock Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Just a bit of fun to get you vintage nuts working those brain cells All you have to do is tell me, Rep, Franken, or Gen? Model no. etc. info if appropriate get bonus points A nice easy one, first up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harley Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 looks genuine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Pffffffffft. C'mon give us a hard one. Care to put you money where your mouth is then, my Alaskan chum Gimme an exact answer and we'll move onto the next one...IF you're right of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Uh oh. 168000, rep. Am I right? Nope. Ok well half right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Ok gen then Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Ok Ken you have it Bloody Nanuq spotting it's a 168000 not a 16800 - I mean, a transitional transitional model only made for less than 12 months and the man nails it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Next one.... (Nanuq, play fair and stop consulting your watch box Let some of the other guys play ) So, what is it? Rep, Franken, or Gen what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 And one final one before I retire for the night then... Nanuq - feel free on this one, it's a toughie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 the 330ft (ref 5508?) is a replica and the other one franken?...just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Ok the first one I think is a franken but the second one is a doozy................umm gen again? Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Nah this game is too hard for me, thinking makes my brain hurt Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Trying to figure out what's in his avatar...a heart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 does the 168000 sub have the same case as the 1680 but with shapire crystal? Always curious about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 This class is to advanced for me haha :cc_surrender: The fine line between franken and gen is too blurry these days haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightstroker Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 (edited) The first one with the orange lume is a gen 1956 6536...100m The second one is a little tougher....it is supposed to be a 5508...but it says 1000ft......WRONG!!....Its a franken watch with gen insert, gen/rep case and a dial from another sub.....maybe gen.....not sure....I dont know....but the dial is definately wrong....red pearl is 6536/1 though Edited November 1, 2007 by Nightstroker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 well Dr.B? is our resident vintage expert correct? This is very exciting even though i have no clue how you guys know all this stuff haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 does the 168000 sub have the same case as the 1680 but with shapire crystal? Always curious about this. Nope, the 168000 was actually a very limited (9-month!) transitional model at the end of the (itself a transitional model) 16800's lifecycle, the final stage before switching to the ubiquitous 16610. By this time, the 1680 was left far behind with the new models having an upgraded case, c.3035 movt, and sapphire crystal. The only real difference between the 168000 and the 16800 was they changed the SS grade from 316 to 904 - Nanuq must have a keen eye for that or of course he guessed I was trying to make things a little more difficult But then he also guessed it was a 'rep' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Ok so you've had some time to stew on the other two overnight....(it was night time here in GMT land ) The first one with the orange lume is a gen 1956 6536...100m The second one is a little tougher....it is supposed to be a 5508...but it says 1000ft......WRONG!!....Its a franken watch with gen insert, gen/rep case and a dial from another sub.....maybe gen.....not sure....I dont know....but the dial is definately wrong....red pearl is 6536/1 thoughOkay since you offered to let me play....... The top one is SO close to a 6536 gilt that it's not even funny. But the case/rehaut depth gives it away as a gilt 5508. The next teaser is an obscenely rare GILT 16800. Unheard of... rarer than rare. Oooh, two completely different opinions here....well who's right then? FIRST ONE.... It is in fact an early (1958) 5508 with an aftermarket (MY) bezel insert. Nanuq I was sure you'd plump for 6536 like Nightstroker - the rehaut spot is superb (you remember Billy Crystal's response to De Niro, right? "No, YOU...." ) SECOND ONE... Nightstroker, that gilt dial with modern text and spec just messes with your head doesn't it?!! A gilt dial in a 1980's era watch? No way is it legit, right? Must be a franken. Or so you'd think... It is in fact completely GEN and ORIGINAL - as my wilderness-dwelling friend has again nailed it, an OBSCENELY RARE gilt dial 16800, made for a Middle East customer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 One last teaser for now then.... To quote one of my favourite architects, remember gentlemen, "God is in the details..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Have you guys ever heard the word.. ANAL.. Sheesh... and loving it! Where else could one ever go, to acquire this sort of information, and discourse? I have said it before, and will say it again, we have some of the most intelligent WIS collectors around. Period. This is not about something being a rep,gen, or Frank, but more about the sharing of accumulated knowledge. And I beleive some WIS from the gen forums, would be overwhelmed, if they visited here. 'Course they wouldn't lower themselves, but wouldn't they get an unholy scare, both at the knowledge, and what some reps can finally grow to. Thanks guys, you just reconfirmed why I spend my time here. Offshore And no DBR, I won't even try on that one...let's leave it to the experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 This class is from a far too high level for me too What a knowledge here on RWG. Bravo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 This class is from a far too high level for me too What a knowledge here on RWG. Bravo You know you really shouldn't feel intimidated or out of your league, there's actually a point or moral behind this entire thread Treat it like a puzzle or a diagnosis. This last one then, just start with the basic details, and say what you see even if it's obvious. Then have another look, see if there's anything that looks different or strange, what's right and what's not right. And then the picture starts to reveal itself..... Go on, give it a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast68 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 (edited) No "Date" in the Oyster line on a GMT Master II, makes me scratch my head, never seen one like that before. BTW - if any of these ever needed a good home..... , lol, great stuff guys!!!!!!!!!!! Edited November 1, 2007 by southcoast68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 That last one... I see teeny tiny little indices with gold surrounds... and no "DATE" in the OYSTER line. Hmmm, the hand stack and a Twinlock ... Swiss - T<25 I think I know! Hidden text eh Nanuq You're right, but I'll have to push you for a little more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 No "Date" in the Oyster line on a GMT Master II, makes me scratch my head, never seen one like that before. BTW - if any of these ever needed a good home..... , lol, great stuff guys!!!!!!!!!!! A head-scratcher indeed, like all of these - combine the GMT Master II marking with a vintage trashed case, the bezel edge, the bleached insert (hmm, now is that blue or black? ), the dial markings, all makes one wonder..... Anyone have an idea what the moral of this thread is yet??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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