eunomians Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 This reminds me of why I wish I didn't sell my old EL TW-SD a few years ago ***sniff ***sniff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 I hate to be a party pooper, but I simply fail to see what's so special with this rep. The most serious flaw is the crystal/rehaut profile, which looks nothing like the gen, and the watch has the ugliest pearl and crown guards I've seen in a long time. This is can be spotted as a rep in 2 seconds, if you know SeaDweller. Maybe it's just me, but personally I think the "tells" are more than obvious. Yes, it's the best modern SD so far, but overall I don't think it's anything extraordinary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyphis Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Yes, it's the best modern SD so far, but overall I don't think it's anything extraordinary. PARTY POOPER Just ordered mine from Josh. I'll just have to live in the denial that this watch is so great and perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Seems like we're far away from getting a great modern SD Basically, after reading for hours all the comments here, everything is wrong on this watch...isn't it? :cc_confused: I will proudly wear my 1665 for a while then, maybe next year we'll have a super-ultimate-perfect-improved Modern SD, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 @stephane: I wouldn't say "everything is wrong" with it. It's the first time when we see a halfway proper case and HE valve on 16600. It's probably really nice watch, I just think it didn't live up to all that hype. It's a decent rep, but after all 1:1 claims and "modeled after the gen" it was a disappointment. Well, at least for me. Perhaps I'm too anal, but it would have been nice to finally see something extraodinary. The rehaut shape simply looks wrong, and this very characteristic look was the most important thing to get right (imho). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 It's probably really nice watch, I just think it didn't live up to all that hype. It's a decent rep, but after all 1:1 claims and "modeled after the gen" it was a disappointment. I understand your feeling BT. It's such a repeated situation: one step forward, two steps back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmarshal Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 @stephane: I wouldn't say "everything is wrong" with it. It's the first time when we see a halfway proper case and HE valve on 16600. It's probably really nice watch, I just think it didn't live up to all that hype. It's a decent rep, but after all 1:1 claims and "modeled after the gen" it was a disappointment. Well, at least for me. Perhaps I'm too anal, but it would have been nice to finally see something extraodinary. The rehaut shape simply looks wrong, and this very characteristic look was the most important thing to get right (imho). For those us new to the hobby could you please elaborate on the crystal/rehaut profile. The CG's and pearl can be fixed, so I'm okay if they are flawed, but I'd like to know a bit more about the flaws you mentioned. Thanks for any illumination you can provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 For those us new to the hobby could you please elaborate on the crystal/rehaut profile. The CG's and pearl can be fixed, so I'm okay if they are flawed, but I'd like to know a bit more about the flaws you mentioned. Thanks for any illumination you can provide. This was discussed already in great detail in the previous threads (before this watch even surfaced), mainly by bklm and me. As you can see from the comparison picture the rehaut profile on the rep looks absolutely NOTHING like the gen. It looks smooth and wrong, while this part of the watch on the genuine Dweller has very characteristic shape. Gen has two deep "dents" and extremely thick front rehaut, which makes the 16610 look very special and unique Rolex. For me this is an outrageous flaw and it completely ruins this watch, and I don't understand how people can overlook it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopypants Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 (edited) I am siding with BT on this one... sure, its a decent rep... but again, it isn't 1:1 like the 'marketing ploy' stated!!! the images above clearly show that this is merely a thicker case, fitted with a HEL and mimics 'closely' to the true SD look... But, if they indeed produce this from the genuine article, they missed one HUGE detail!!! Maybe all this thing needs is a better/clearer crystal?!?! SOMEONE possibly doing a crystal swap?!?! Also, sidenote, the SEL's seem to look loose and high as always... dead giveaway! Edited November 6, 2007 by poopypants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsterRider Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I hate to be a party pooper, but I simply fail to see what's so special with this rep. The most serious flaw is the crystal/rehaut profile, which looks nothing like the gen, and the watch has the ugliest pearl and crown guards I've seen in a long time. This is can be spotted as a rep in 2 seconds, if you know SeaDweller. Maybe it's just me, but personally I think the "tells" are more than obvious. Yes, it's the best modern SD so far, but overall I don't think it's anything extraordinary. I disagree. I think the crystal/rehaut profile looks fantastic. The CG's while not perfect, are only a minor amount of work away from being as good as any. The pearl is so easy to change that I don't even think about that on any Rollie rep. I borrowed these pics from sixpm over at RepGeek. Is it 1:1? Obviously not. But in the areas that you can't change, it's as close as you are likely to get without buying a gen. The case is almost perfect, the bezel is almost perfect (and constructed the same way as a gen), perfect He valve, it uses the correct size case tube/crown and the end links look better than any Rollie rep to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadweller3 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 How does one easily change the pearl? Sorry, I'm a newbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopypants Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 How does one easily change the pearl? Sorry, I'm a newbie. buy a new bezel ! preferably OEM ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadweller3 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 buy a new bezel ! preferably OEM ! So an OEM is guaranteed to fit this model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millemiglia Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 There are different OEM manifacturers so "guaranteed" is a big word...(some milling might be required...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingo Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Hmm, on www.repgeek.com (here) watcher says: "The bezel is much deeper than of older reps and fits a gen insert without problem. I had to shave a little off the sides to fit it snugly under the lip of the bezel but no glue was required. It just snapped right in. Here is a pic of my King supplied SD with modded CG's(yes they need modding and If I owned sub24g's I would complain because they are not very evenly done at the back!!). " Sounds good to me!! Ingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopypants Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 (edited) (some milling might be required...) thank you millemiglia!!! however, i thought i read somewhere where someone said an OEM will "click right in"... maybe i am wrong... <SARCASM> I mean, we are working with a 'perfect', '1:1' model aren't we? </SARCASM> Edited November 6, 2007 by poopypants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 poopypants, what happened to your old avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 watcher stated that the Bezel Assembly is not like gen... It's like on the most Rolex reps..... Can anybody who has the new SD post some Pics of the Bezel assembly? It's interesting for a lot of member i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollux1 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 i hope this is worth getting ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingo Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 For my opinion we won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 will get this watch today or tomorrow - gen insert is already waiting will shave the CGs and polish the rehaut. cheers Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 You know, I am quite tempted by this one. Don't have a Rolex in the collection. Might add this...?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millemiglia Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 It would be nice to see a picture of the watch without the crystal installed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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