RRFAN Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Hi, Looking to get a submariner for xmas and I'm stuck between Josh's and Andrews Beginmariners. They are both the same price but are slightly different (i think). Josh's is an Asia Eta 2813 - http://www.pc-80108.com/rlss10009-black-be...ing-p-2303.html Andrew's is an Asia Auto 21J but is waterproofed to 50m - http://www.trustytime88.com/index.php?main...roducts_id=2248 Both come to the same price with shipping. From some searches I've done the Asian 21j is best to steer clear of but there have been mixed reviews on the 2813 Eta also. Which would you guys choose if you had to? Both sellers have good service so I'm not fussed on choosing it on their merits, just on the watches themselves. Many Thanks to anyone who helps. Edited December 5, 2007 by RRFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Sorry but did you ever consider Narika & TTK's "NoobMariner" ? If not, pls do so before you buy whatever "cheap" Sub. Cheers Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFAN Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) I haven't but will do now. Josh and andrew just seem the more mainstream dealers across these types of forums. My thread should have really been titled "Asian auto 21j or Asian ETA 2813" though! EDIT: Editted!! Edited December 5, 2007 by RRFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFAN Posted December 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 anyone??? I need to order one today so I really value anyone's comments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 The two movements you mention are one and the same. The difference is that Josh is a proven liar when it comes to describing his movements. There is no such thing as an Asian ETA 2813. The 2813 movement is not a calibre produced by ETA. It is a movement produced in China by PTS resources and is a distant copy of a Miyota/Citizen design. Calling it ETA is complete bullcrap designed to make you think it is something other than what it is. The prices are the same because the products are the same because the two sellers collaborate. Andrew seems to have a conscience about misrepresenting his products though. Josh clearly doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Man, go for Narika's or TTK NoobMariner with asian 21J. If it's urgent, pick Narika has he might have stock in the EU Trust us...we've all been buying all the Subs out there (over 5 or 6 different ones from all dealers) Don't waste your time thinking we do lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 The two movements you mention are one and the same. The difference is that Josh is a proven liar when it comes to describing his movements. There is no such thing as an Asian ETA 2813. The 2813 movement is not a calibre produced by ETA. It is a movement produced in China by PTS resources and is a distant copy of a Miyota/Citizen design. Calling it ETA is complete bullcrap designed to make you think it is something other than what it is. The prices are the same because the products are the same because the two sellers collaborate. Andrew seems to have a conscience about misrepresenting his products though. Josh clearly doesn't. What he said, just marketing bull. Have a look at a noobmarina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisik Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Take TTK's... better watch and much better collector. Josh and Andrew are just white glove scammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin18 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Sorry for bumping this old thread, but is the Josh these people were talking about the Joshua on here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Sorry for bumping this old thread, but is the Josh these people were talking about the Joshua on here ? yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrari1 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Has the opinion on him changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasebah Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Can someone point me to Anrika's website if he has one? I can't find him under the links. -Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Can someone point me to Anrika's website if he has one? I can't find him under the links. -Alex Narikaa left this forum about 1 month ago. He still operates on other forums. He has a photo hosting site, not really a web store. You look at the watches then email him to order https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/2644807/1/Narikaa%20Gallery/MENS%20WATCHES/?h=a09530 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smqsub Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Why did Reg go? Sent from TK-421's comms using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 He did not say. He just said goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin18 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 yep Is he still regarded as dishonest and a scammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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