TeeJay Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 From the comments, I get the gist that the rep crossbars are lower than gen. But, I read the comment that the 127 is an exception. Does the gen 127 have low crossbars on the 'A's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Victoria - the "cross" of the letter A is lower on most reps than on the gen: I see it now, Nolsen. Thank you very much! Even my DSN 112? I see it now on Andrew's 111h's though. @Sssurfer: You can bank on it. One day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noslen Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 I see it now, Nolsen. Thank you very much! Even my DSN 112? I see it now on Andrew's 111h's though. @Sssurfer: You can bank on it. One day. IIRC the dials on the 47mm Radiomirs are ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 From the comments, I get the gist that the rep crossbars are lower than gen. But, I read the comment that the 127 is an exception. Does the gen 127 have low crossbars on the 'A's? This is Davidsen's 127, and just peeping to the side, is his 112 again. I dunno...A`s look good to me. EDIT: Two more. Davidsen 232. Davidsen 113. ...just for the sake of thread reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted March 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Davidsen "A"s are better than those of many other reps. And you may expect an even further improvement on his next auto models. -- I hope -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 This is Davidsen's 127, and just peeping to the side, is his 112 again. I dunno...A`s look good to me. This was the comment I was refering too... Definitely low crossbars on letter A on most historic Panerai reps, including mech Radiomirs. Fiddy (1950) is an exception. Most of the contemporary autos come with correct letter A these days. Subs, GMTs and PRs from the past (24, 27, 28, 29, 63 etc) all come with low crossbar. Latest subs are OK in this respect. It drives some people nuts, others gave up and just learned to live with these imperfections. cheers, babola What is the gen 127 an exception to? An exception with low crossbars? This was my confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 This was the comment I was refering too... What is the gen 127 an exception to? An exception with low crossbars? This was my confusion The 127 is an exception because ALL rep 127s had the correct A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Vic, your DSN 112 has good "A"s, even if the overall font is a bit thin. Corgi, I don't need to chill. I never claimed it was the end of the world or that I wouldn't wear the watch. Quite the opposite, actually. If you read my other posts, I clearly state that I ordered the watch KNOWING about the low "A"s. I'm wearing it today, actually. However, as I also said in my other posts, just because it's a flaw I'm willing to live with doesn't mean it isn't a flaw worth discussing. It also doesn't mean that it isn't an easy way to spot a rep. "Dude... Chill." -- Sage advice, perhaps you'd be well served to heed it yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 I guess if my Pam actually glowed at night.. and the crown and lever was remotely close to the thickness of the gen.. well, then.. I would probably move onto b!tching about the A's. It's what we do. Each of us have our own tolerance levels in regards to rep vs gen scrutiny. These comparisons are a huge portion of what we talk about on this board day to day. I don't think anyone should be singled out as playing "Robinson" any more than the next guy. Unless you're dipping your rep dials in black paint to cover up the brand markings, every single one of us are guilty of it to some degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Great thread. I love collecting these reps. My wife thinks I am nuts "who ever heard of a person who liked to collect fake items?" she says. Of course she just does not get it. It is the fun of beating the system, improving something which is flawed, tinkering, enjoying the design.... I have only one Panerai. A 063 GMT with a low cross bar A. It is the most beautiful PAM in my opinion. I have modded it to the max with everything that the forum has to offer. Gen movement, Cyclops, datewheel, lume, etc. BUT - the one thing I can not fix - those cursed low cross bar A's. Curse you rep manufacturers!!!!! ARGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH! Too funny. Am I trying to fool someone else? Nope. Trying to fool myself. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Man... I thought I had a great 118 rep...till I read this thread I had to take a macro photograph, and blow it up just to see them - But there they are, plain as day! Low A's. I used to wear this watch all the time...Now I'm so embarrassed...Im going to have to sell it You guys suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted March 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 I think we can say: If you need a loupe to detect low crossbars, either you have a good rep or a bad sight. If you can detect low crossbars in your rep by naked eye, you may live with it also getting assuration about your good sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Don't sweat it, avitt. This is one thing that most people would never pick up on. Especially in the flesh. I just look for it now because I'm a freak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 I am glad to know about it. Why? It is something I factor in when considering buying a rep. On some reps it is a dead giveaway and I wouldn't buy it. On others it doesn't phase me. On a Base rep where the A's are very low it does bother me enough that I don't own one. On a busy dial automatic like the GMT's, PR's, Daylights, etc. I am fine with it. And A's are not all created equal. And I agree with the earlier comment that if you got a crappy cg, crown, date or whatever it is the least of your problems. But most likely anyone who has noticed the A's is trying to do something about everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerwine Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Wanted- To Trade or Buy - 6 DSN "A"s for 12 "low bar" "A"s plus cash. "A"s must be in 95% CONDITION. Please, "Low Ballers" or "Tire Kickers", do not reply !!! Rogerwine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 The 127 is an exception because ALL rep 127s had the correct A. But high or low? This is my confusion. My 127 has low crossbars. Is this correct? (Not that I actually care about 1:1 accuracy, I'm just trying to find out if it's correct or not ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Nope they should be high, I believe, just like in Victoria's picture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 The funny thing is that the Fiddy's are one of very few dials that has the proper gloss on the words on the dial. IMHO, in general it is not until you see a gen dial next to the rep that it becomes obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 So these 'A's are wrong? Again, not that I realy care, in terms of 1:1 replication, I'm just trying to clarify how they should or shouldn't be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSlayer Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Gen TeeJay They look pretty good to me TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Gen TeeJay They look pretty good to me TeeJay Thanks for the comparison, amigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Gen TeeJay They look pretty good to me TeeJay I don't know, TeeJay....I wouldn't get overconfident if I were you. It looks to me like your letters are leaning the wrong way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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