docblackrock Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 @Tazz, you have PM BT, PM me if you want this and naturally I'll gladly step aside out of courtesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Very very nice watch.. Me likes How big it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 No probs guys... there are so many watches that I want. I first want the Ebel BTR, as soon as I figure out which version. I can always get this later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 No probs guys... there are so many watches that I want. I first want the Ebel BTR, as soon as I figure out which version. I can always get this later. Thanks BT, just thought I'd ask/check first before queue-jumping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzman Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 ok, SLR reserved to docblackrock payment+shipping next week / tazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Can you guys give me an update following a bit of time of ownership? I'm concerned about the reliability of the movement.. seems like there had to be a mod to get the seconds running at 3, but this watch looks amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario33 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Watch definitely growing on me too...too many watches to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 I just saw on Kings site that this one has been released with the bracelet as well (I know there are a lot of members who prefer the bracelet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_brian_ Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 I like that clasp. The Slevin should have something similar too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Sorry to keep bumping this thread. Just looking for an update as to impressions. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasar Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 What's the best place to buy this watch from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 For what it's worth, I PM'ed Italiano about his experience and he said the watch wasn't working. He advised me to stay away. I really, really like the watch, and want one. Just want to make sure that it's not a paperweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 For what it's worth, I PM'ed Italiano about his experience and he said the watch wasn't working. He advised me to stay away. I really, really like the watch, and want one. Just want to make sure that it's not a paperweight. Well mine will be here within the week so I'll let you know. Tazzman's had it a little while so any QC issues should have manifest already. I hope anyway. Italiano's experience isn't unusual, but is by no means model-specific. Anything with an asian 7750 is always a bit of a crapshoot, probably more so those with extra gear mods like big dates etc. But will post updates here when I get it and a month later after some wear and tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I just saw on Kings site that this one has been released with the bracelet as well (I know there are a lot of members who prefer the bracelet) Bracelet detracts from the watch IMO - fairly chunky multilink 'chainmail' style doesn't befit the sleek styling, trying too hard to be a cross between the old 'rice-grain' Monaco bracelet and the new Breitling Blackbird bracelet - just awful. Even the two AD's (2 different countries) I've spoken too about the gen say they agree and of the ones they've sold (and the gen is a good seller), 90% have been on rubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanytical Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 (edited) Bracelet detracts from the watch IMO - fairly chunky multilink 'chainmail' style doesn't befit the sleek styling, trying too hard to be a cross between the old 'rice-grain' Monaco bracelet and the new Breitling Blackbird bracelet - just awful. Even the two AD's (2 different countries) I've spoken too about the gen say they agree and of the ones they've sold (and the gen is a good seller), 90% have been on rubber. Salespeople pick up on customer biases and play whatever side sells, and they will always agree with you or make up statistics that sound favorable to convince a customer that they are a "keen observer with superior tastes". I've been a salesperson many times, and it's all psychology. When you say they agreed with you, then you must have already laid out your preferences. They just played upon it. Go visit some more AD's and tell them you dislike the rubber and extol the virtues of the bracelet, and they'll sing another tune to you. I guarantee it. Edited July 13, 2008 by alanytical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Damn...sweet looking watch (for a TAG) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Salespeople pick up on customer biases and play whatever side sells, and they will always agree with you or make up statistics that sound favorable to convince a customer that they are a "keen observer with superior tastes". I've been a salesperson many times, and it's all psychology. When you say they agreed with you, then you must have already laid out your preferences. They just played upon it. Go visit some more AD's and tell them you dislike the rubber and extol the virtues of the bracelet, and they'll sing another tune to you. I guarantee it. Err, thanks for the (slightly patronising if well-meaning) sales psychology there.... Massive hole in your theory is that neither were trying to seriously sell me the watch, as they knew my preference for the Mk I version and that I stated I wasn't in the market for the new version, merely curious. One of the ADs I've known for years now and is so the total antithesis of a salesman (or maybe in that sense he's the best ) you could imagine. I often stop by to say hello and just chat what's new. If he tells me this or that isn't selling, I'm 100% inclined to believe him whether that is Panerai, TAG Heuer or Patek. The other AD (in Paris) didn't know me from Adam (except what I did for a living - don't ask how or why) but was equally un-salesperson and although discretely offered me a substantial (and I mean substantial!) discount almost as a quick whisper, was clearly a subscriber to the wisdom that there is little point bullshitting a knowledgeable customer especially over what works and doesn't work, as the discerning ones will return within a week unsatisfied having made a mental note never again to listen the 'advice' of the guy who sold it to them, and take their business elsewhere. One of the things I dislike about buying anything in the US is that hard-sell culture you're alluding to, always looking to make a deal, pouncing on the customer, giving them a line, when sometimes the honest, less in-your-face approach works much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanytical Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Err, thanks for the (slightly patronising if well-meaning) sales psychology there.... Massive hole in your theory is that neither were trying to seriously sell me the watch, as they knew my preference for the Mk I version and that I stated I wasn't in the market for the new version, merely curious. One of the ADs I've known for years now and is so the total antithesis of a salesman (or maybe in that sense he's the best ) you could imagine. I often stop by to say hello and just chat what's new. If he tells me this or that isn't selling, I'm 100% inclined to believe him whether that is Panerai, TAG Heuer or Patek. The other AD (in Paris) didn't know me from Adam (except what I did for a living - don't ask how or why) but was equally un-salesperson and although discretely offered me a substantial (and I mean substantial!) discount almost as a quick whisper, was clearly a subscriber to the wisdom that there is little point bullshitting a knowledgeable customer especially over what works and doesn't work, as the discerning ones will return within a week unsatisfied having made a mental note never again to listen the 'advice' of the guy who sold it to them, and take their business elsewhere. One of the things I dislike about buying anything in the US is that hard-sell culture you're alluding to, always looking to make a deal, pouncing on the customer, giving them a line, when sometimes the honest, less in-your-face approach works much better. Ahh, you have rapport with one I see. So he's chummy and honest then. But I can tell you that I have never had a salesperson disagree with me, unless of course they like losing the sale and having no food on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 But I can tell you that I have never had a salesperson disagree with me, unless of course they like losing the sale and having no food on the table. Well I have many times. Doesn't [censored] me off either, just an example of each to their own tastes. Doesn't make me question my purchase. I just don't like being humoured for the sake of a sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 (edited) I purchased the 2004 version of this watch and although it looked great, the subdials were all off. I exchanged it for an IWC Costeau divers (still had the wrong dials, but it looked much better on me. lol). Then while I was going around the area, I found this new version and it looked exactly like this one. At 130$, but then that's what the websites are selling theirs for generally and I'd be better off picking something I can see than something posted on a website (although I know the dealers here are reputable, there is customs to deal with potentially). Unfortunately, as I recently parted with around 100$ for the SLR (now a IWC), a Patek Skeleton, a Hublot Big Bang and a Tag Golf for the lady (the only rep which was good, the Hublot and the Patek weren't although they looked stylish), I'm saving up for the next round. Still thinking about this one, the Grand Calibre RS and the Concord C1, which I saw at the same store. Wicked. On the subject of dealers, the dealer from where I bought the watches was knowledgeable and didn't [censored] me by saying every watch I looked at fit me perfectly. She also knew which watches were close to the Gen (she told me honestly that at the lower end, I shouldn't be expecting high quality reps). She didn't carry a Hublot so she pointed me to an acquaintance who had it and gave me a lower than usual price for it. And when I told her I found some high quality reps, she promised she'd send me a text message as soon as she got some and give me a special price for it. How's that for service? Edited August 18, 2008 by mysterio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josevancouver Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Here are some quick pics of mine. I had the rubber strap but switched to the steel bracelet. Pros: awesome AR, great crisp dial, nice bezel, well-constructed Con: movement was 'wonky' when I got it. Stopped for no apparent reason. I had to shake it a few times very hard to get it moving and wore it non-stop for a week (no problems). I stopped wearing it for about 2 weeks and put it on, no problem. Maybe the movement needed to be worked in a bit?? Jose For what it's worth, I PM'ed Italiano about his experience and he said the watch wasn't working. He advised me to stay away. I really, really like the watch, and want one. Just want to make sure that it's not a paperweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 i have it on a steel bracelet too, but it is either too snug or loose on my 7" wrist, havent worn it because of that, it is a awesome watch though! it has been on my winder for about 2 months or more, and has been keeping perfect time etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josevancouver Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I lightly polished and lubed the bracelet and the watch just looks and feels so gen-like. The AR on this is terrific - one of the best parts outside of the dial and bezel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I'd like to get the bracelet (mine's on rubber) but finding it difficult to source it as spare, couple of dealers have said can't get hold of. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be very grateful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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