millemiglia Posted August 25, 2008 Report Posted August 25, 2008 Just saw this http://www.a88time.com/index.php?main_page...roducts_id=3253 in search of my first Pam but being a total Noob on this side of the world I was wondering if it's any good (?) What do you think?
alt.watch.obsessive Posted August 25, 2008 Report Posted August 25, 2008 Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but "synthetic saphire" from Josh and Andrew means plain old glass and/or plastic. So it will scratch, especially since it's domed, which is a real give away. I have an old 212 and while I LOVE the model, I would go with a model with a real saphire crystal. Then you can beat on it a bit.
millemiglia Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) So after some beating it would have a giveaway in the form of crystal scratches, anything else very noticeable from the start? Edited August 25, 2008 by millemiglia
redbird Posted August 26, 2008 Report Posted August 26, 2008 It's a very nice rep actually. It has the proper second ticks (coming out from the center instead of in from the bezel). It seems a bit overpriced for a 7750 with mineral glass. I got lucky and got one with a sapphire way back in the day but some claim those 'explode' more than the mineral glass.
Dani Posted August 26, 2008 Report Posted August 26, 2008 "made whit genuine as sample" hahahaha that is the new 1:1 swiss
cdzsmith Posted August 26, 2008 Report Posted August 26, 2008 It looks pretty good to me - correct tics, correct black subdial hands, the dial font looks pretty good, the crown looks ok (need an expert to chime in) too. The lever and pushers look a little off, and the printing on the rotor looks sloppy. I've heard also that the sapphire crystals are more prone to exploding, but no personal experience with that. It'd be great if the price works its way down on this one (ala APROO, Graham Diver's, most recently the Skyland)....
ZainoDetail Posted August 26, 2008 Report Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) Looks pretty good. I too have an older 212 and there are some good updates on this one. I wonder if you can buy the display back cover separate as many of the older ones did not have serial number on them like the one pictured does. Only thing I can note is the chrono. pushers should be polished. That's an easy fix though. Side note: I really need to wear my 212 more! Edited August 26, 2008 by ZainoDetail
millemiglia Posted August 26, 2008 Author Report Posted August 26, 2008 WOW you are actually saying that the Chinese have a nice "out of the box" Panerai rep? Should I pull the trigger?
slay Posted August 26, 2008 Report Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) Sorry, but hasnt anyone noticed that the Rotor is totally wrong for this watch?!? Check out the pics of the gen rotor: http://cgi.ebay.com/PANERAI-PAM-212-LUMINO...1QQcmdZViewItem Edited August 26, 2008 by slay
rolli Posted August 26, 2008 Report Posted August 26, 2008 the ebay offer is the h-serie rotor, but the new 212 rep is the i-serie model. here is the gen i-serie rotor rolli Sorry, but hasnt anyone noticed that the Rotor is totally wrong for this watch?!? Check out the pics of the gen rotor: http://cgi.ebay.com/PANERAI-PAM-212-LUMINO...1QQcmdZViewItem
poopypants Posted August 26, 2008 Report Posted August 26, 2008 pretty typical... have an exposed rotor and make it look as sh*tty as possible... that thing painted with water colors?!?! PP
slay Posted August 26, 2008 Report Posted August 26, 2008 well, to me the movement finish also gives the watch away not the rotor! @rolli thanks for the explanation, didnt know they have a new series out already
millemiglia Posted August 27, 2008 Author Report Posted August 27, 2008 A review with detailed pics (macro shots) is needed then (for better understanding of the finishing quality). I wouldn't be so negative though, unless you are trying to sell it as real, on your wrist no one will see the rotor and you will probably get away with it. Not too shabby for an out-of the box Pam rep, wouldn't you say?
V Posted August 27, 2008 Report Posted August 27, 2008 Not too shabby for an out-of the box Pam rep, wouldn't you say? Yeap.. it is a nice one...
poopypants Posted August 27, 2008 Report Posted August 27, 2008 i guess my point was that they have the ABILITY to make precise engravings and also have the ABILITY to fill those engravings with paint without it looking like the paint is coming out of the engraving and seeping into the CDG of the rotor... so, whats the deal?!?! is the rotor guy missing fingers? do we as a community need to fork up 10 bucks to get the guy some READERS?!?! (glasses) further more... the "use genuine as sample" is getting to be a stupid comment if they can visually see the details on the gen (supposedly), but refuse to replicate the details... the overall finish of the movement has always been an issue, but why not at least the rotor right... they don't have that problem with the HBB, or Breits...
Chronus Posted August 27, 2008 Report Posted August 27, 2008 it will never be accurate ... no flyback functionality... so dson't demonstrate the chrono ! mineral glass would be a deal breaker if i was interested in this.
alw Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 How big does the 212 wear on the wrist? Does it look larger than the base 44mm cases?
V Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 How big does the 212 wear on the wrist? Does it look larger than the base 44mm cases? kind of smaller because of the smaller dial...
deltatahoe Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 am i the only one that can't see this website? thanks in advance deltatahoe
Mark Frommelt Posted January 13, 2010 Report Posted January 13, 2010 Aren't all sapphire crystals synthetic....it certainly isn't ground to the 212 dome shape.
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