V Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 v.... it's very simple to see and to count it from the picture. otherwise you can zoom it with photoshop. the visible part of the crown has 18 teeth. that means, 19 on top and 19 down = 38, the teeth behind the crown-guard left and right are not so much. that means this crown has 48 teeth. rolli ok.. fair enough... so TH what photo shows a pam with 52 teeth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaykeem Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Sounds good to me T, I'll be looking forward to the 48 teeth crowns when they are made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 As hard as it is to believe that anyone would CNC 700 crowns without having 1 gen in hand first, I'm not going to worry about it. @ 5x with 2 crowns jammed up side by side it's a problem. On a watch, on the the wrist this is no problem at all. Folks notice the thickness first--if they notice anything at all. The most important takeaway from this thread is that too many RWGers have forgotten that 0% of reps or rep parts can stack up to gen @ 10X magnification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hawkes Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 (edited) Read the quotes from UJ and you see you are wrong about that... 1. ...I've taken a pic that I hope may help. Top is an auto, bottom left is an A (series) HW, bottom right is a B (series) HW. BTW, I really don't care how many teeth they have so long as it fits properly. 2. ...Removed a CG from an A and also got 48... and conratulations being able to see from photos how many teeth exactly the crowns have. Because me the retarded I couldn't count properly the one i have in front of me. Look, it wasn't in my intention to insult you and if I did I apologize for that. You are not retarded. This is a picture with all the crowns from the link on last page. There are exactly 17 red points on each of the 2 crowns on the left all on top of a tooth. You decide.. FOR YOURSELF.. Attachement is the same as pictured above but in bmp format.lol2.bmp Edited September 4, 2008 by Tom Hawkes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 TH... we know that already. but fact is that nobody and especially the 60 teeth assertor didn't check this by this method. rolli Look, it wasn't in my intention to insult you and if I did I apologize for that. You are not retarded. This is a picture with all the crowns from the link on last page. There are exactly 17 red points on each of the 2 crowns on the left all on top of a tooth. You decide.. Attachement is the same as pictured above but in bmp format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hawkes Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I am not sure that I understood "but fact is that nobody and especially the 60 teeth assertor didn't check by this method." completely but my point is not that the 60t might be correct. My point is just that there are different crowns.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 we all know that there are different crowns shapes, but the question was before t started the crown order, how many teeth. rolli I am not sure that I understood "but fact is that nobody and especially the 60 teeth assertor didn't check by this method." completely but my point is not that the 60t might be correct. My point is just that there are different crowns.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hawkes Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Obviously not everybody knows it since some people are saying that the ones with 48 teeth are the only gen ones that were ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 We can go argueing forever. We have no proof of which of the pictured crowns are "genuine". We actually even lack a common/shared definition of "genuine crown". What about leaving this issue to a future time, when -- hopely -- we would have gathered more info, and welcoming next t48 crowns in the meanwhile? (btw, also the t60 are all but bad) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted September 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 As hard as it is to believe that anyone would CNC 700 crowns without having 1 gen in hand first, I'm not going to worry about it. @ 5x with 2 crowns jammed up side by side it's a problem. On a watch, on the the wrist this is no problem at all. Folks notice the thickness first--if they notice anything at all. The most important takeaway from this thread is that too many RWGers have forgotten that 0% of reps or rep parts can stack up to gen @ 10X magnification. Dude check this topic... 158 replies and 2.750 views... still we have not the correct answer about the teeths so i am not the only poor guy here BTW, i had a genuine crown as sample... but we won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye_lin Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I dun know what the fuss is about here... T has made the T60 crowns... and he is going to make the T48 crowns as a second run... Just take your pick on what you prefer.... T60 crown looks great in my opinion... No AD or Paneristi is going to go around counting teeth on PAM crowns to spot a rep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 TH... we know that already. but fact is that nobody and especially the 60 teeth assertor didn't check this by this method. rolli Whoever the 60 teeth assertor is, I guess he didn't check "by this method." But then again, I bet he probably wouldn't have written a check to a CNC shop without personally counting the teeth on a gen crown either, especially if he had one in hand. I agree w/ T. This is a communal mistake not the mistake of any single assertor. Do any of our teethcounters have a gen A series auto in their collections along side their lonely Base? I'd love it if someone who has one would count the teeth. That way we can be sure that those ebay crowns are fake. In any event, I'll repeat my original point: There has never been an RWG project--date wheel overlay, date wheel, crown, CG, anything--that can stand up to gen at 10X magnification. But all are big improvements over the rep. I'll happily buy a couple of T's 60 teeth crowns and never worry a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I guess we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Dude check this topic... 158 replies and 2.750 views... still we have not the correct answer about the teeths so i am not the only poor guy here BTW, i had a genuine crown as sample... but we won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Hey! I made the drawings The crown looked fine to me and I didn't question the number of teeth, cuz I thought whatever was given to me was correct Updated drawings with 48 teeth are re-sent, and I'm sure that's right too... but I want everyone to check the chamfered edges to make sure they're happy first No offense intended, you did a great job on the CAD work. I thought the crown was 60 teeth as well, just like many others around here and we followed that specification instead of counting them. However, we had to find out that we were slightly off, only 12 teeth, not much. Just 25% more than the gen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hawkes Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 So you get 25% more value for your money! Why do people complain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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