rmcsherry Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I know FGD found a great looking Helenarou case a while back (which has now been discontinued) that was as close as we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I honestly don't know Ross. The best preV shape case that I have was my first Panerai rep, a 005 from EL, which had a sapphire crystal without any ARish coating and best of all it had the (incorrect for a 005) very accurate 5218/201A caseback. Just made for boring out the lugs and dropping a logo dial into. It's with The Zigmeister at present to assemble with a gen G series CG and a CdG striped ETA 6497, similar to the real deal. The finished article should be the best we can achieve with the currently available dials. As far as the cases are concerned I don't know if there is a variety of shapes available from different sources at the same time or whether different batches have varied in an attempt to get closer to the correct current shape. From my experience I would suggest that you try a WTB for an early 005 with the incorrect caseback etc. BTW, this caseback is a very accurate replication of the 5218/201A and carries the same serial number as 'Mr Yellow's' gen. I have often suspected that the case and caseback may have been replicated by someone who had direct access to that actual watch as both items are accurate to that particular gen. AFAIK that gen watch lived in the same part of the world as the rep factories and before I discovered the rep community I can remember that a replica 5218/201A dial was also available. It was not engraved but otherwise was reasonable accurate and was available on ioffer (possibly from River) about 4 or 5 years ago. I may still have a pic somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted September 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Your EL 005 is certainly the type of watch I'm looking for! Thanks for the comments, I'll have a search and see if I can find any good links. Strangely, whilst searching I came across this link... 5218-218a - I have tried to buy things on this site (without any luck) before, but the 218a and 202a that this guy has seem to have heavily modded dials - certainly an unexpected find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Guys is this a short lug case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Your EL 005 is certainly the type of watch I'm looking for! Thanks for the comments, I'll have a search and see if I can find any good links. Strangely, whilst searching I came across this link... 5218-218a - I have tried to buy things on this site (without any luck) before, but the 218a and 202a that this guy has seem to have heavily modded dials - certainly an unexpected find! Those look like standard DSN reps to me. What seems heavily modded about those dials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Has anybody ordered a Helenarou Ti case recently? For the 5218-202A, SS or Ti shouldn't make a difference (I can't remember what the original was made from before the PVD'ing) - and maybe her Ti cases were from the same tooling as the old SS cases? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Guys is this a short lug case? Looks like it to me V but the best way to tell is a profile shot from the crown.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bong Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Guys is this a short lug case? It is not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted September 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I think I *may* have found a source. Other than slight strap 'dimples', the case looks pretty good - I'll post some photos and a link to the seller if it proves to be the watch pictured (although I won't hold my breath, as even Helenarou still has photos of her old case in the eBay listings). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I think I *may* have found a source. Other than slight strap 'dimples', the case looks pretty good - I'll post some photos and a link to the seller if it proves to be the watch pictured (although I won't hold my breath, as even Helenarou still has photos of her old case in the eBay listings). I am looking forward to an update... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 i have on of the first 005 out bought in 2005 maybe that is one of the good ones? I will thake photos tonight, it was my first pam ever so maybe it will transform to something great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 btw for those who havent seen it here is a great comparison photo from Psti: PAM88 (up) and 5218-201/A (down) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 The Helenarou cases I picked up have the exact same profile as the Pre-V ....I am beginning to think that as PAMMan said , these were made using a gen 201 as a sample...... I just wish Helenarou could supply a job lot of the same case ....I might give MK a shout with the details/spec and see if he can source 20-30 cases for us ... Keep you posted Regards FGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Keep in mind that the 088 is an Automatic so the bezel height is slightly taller, hence the extra bit of red on the top case in V's image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketeer Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) Just received some cases from MK and the ti cases I got are the long lugs, with OP 5513 & EE991530 engraving. Edited September 20, 2008 by Rocketeer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 I could go for a case! Right now - the best looking one I can find is actually DSN's new 03a case. Same looking lugs. The Helenarou cases I picked up have the exact same profile as the Pre-V ....I am beginning to think that as PAMMan said , these were made using a gen 201 as a sample...... I just wish Helenarou could supply a job lot of the same case ....I might give MK a shout with the details/spec and see if he can source 20-30 cases for us ... Keep you posted Regards FGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 How is this case from DSN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 How is this case from DSN? Pretty good IMHO ...just depends if the CG screws are still DSN custom size or std rep size.....if DSN size then no good with a V CG......boooo! I'd be keen to find out as the CG doesn't look to shabby either!! FGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 No kidding, FGD. Both the case and the CG look good (for obviously different reasons). Hmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 No kidding, FGD. Both the case and the CG look good (for obviously different reasons). Hmmmm... My thoughts exactly. Hmmmm.... Especially since i think that the screws are the standard ones. Nice thing also - DSN still has some ETA movements..... Not correct for a Pre-V project - but at least they would be bulletproof behind the 201A back. I will still wait to see if we can get cases another way. I think that these DSN cases do have the dimple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 And here is a better view of probably the same case on the 164? If it is Chinese standard made that would be great.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 It looks nice and square alright ...just hope that someone can confirm the CG hole size?? Cheers FGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 It looks nice and square alright ...just hope that someone can confirm the CG hole size?? Cheers FGD Dsn is your friend... why don't you ask him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Have is this? Caseback Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Have is this? Caseback Cheers Looks great. Where did you get it? Who's is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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