USMC8404 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Good morning all: First let me say please excuse my poor photography skills. I am not a pro at taking pictures. Anyway, I just received my gen Sumariner LV two days ago and at first I was a little disappointed I also have the Euromariner version of this watch and could not believe just how very close both watches are. They look almost identical! The feel of the Gen is a little better on the wrist, but this could be explained by the fact I know it is the real deal. My disappointment has faded and now I could not be happier with my new watch. As a bonus I no longer have to worry about wearing the Euromariner and being called out. It is that good! The gen will stay on my wrist most of the time. But now I have a beater for when I am out hunting, fishing, doing yard work, etc. Let me know what you think. See if you can distinguish which is the Gen!
mansun Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Euro .....left and the real deal is right.........................................................mansun
USMC8404 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Report Posted October 4, 2008 I am not going to say right away which is which. Let's see how many can pick the right one!
mansun Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh jaysus....................
cmt_sutton Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Hi UMC, without a doubt the eurotimez edition is excellent, it`s the watch I`d like this xmas, but a bit expensive if the eta movement is included. The only difference I can see between them are the lugs which are a shade longer on the watch on the right (1st picture) ? A noob question this but does the hand sweep like the gen? is this why Asian and ETA are options to add or do the good quality reps have the sweep movement.
b16a2 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Looks good to me, the Euro is on the left. The only thing that gave it away for me was the CG's. A little trimming on those and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Wear them well!
cmt_sutton Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 sorry, meant the lugs on the left hand watch are slightly longer, so guessing this is the Euro?
USMC8404 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Report Posted October 4, 2008 Hi UMC, without a doubt the eurotimez edition is excellent, it`s the watch I`d like this xmas, but a bit expensive if the eta movement is included. The only difference I can see between them are the lugs which are a shade longer on the watch on the right (1st picture) ? A noob question this but does the hand sweep like the gen? is this why Asian and ETA are options to add or do the good quality reps have the sweep movement. Both watches are 28,800 vpm. My Euromariner has the ETA, I can't speak for the Asian because I don't own one. I will say that from what I have read here that the Asian Clone ETAs are pretty good.
mansun Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 the bezel and CGs on the euro are a dead give away................. the bezel looks like it going to pop out...........mansun
USMC8404 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Report Posted October 4, 2008 the bezel and CGs on the euro are a dead give away................. the bezel looks like it going to pop out...........mansun Good Catch! These are the only real flaws. Also the printing of the Noob dial is a little bolder, but you can't tell unless they are side by side. I plan to send it off to The Zigmeister early next year to have these issues corrected.
mansun Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 thanks USMC, its one of the first thingyou spot,,, when eyeballing a rolex sub or SD,, the bezel never seem to sit right on the reps......... well its a mad hobby. but I like it ............................. Enjoy your new LV..... wear it well.... show it off........................mansun
klocklind1 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 The green color IS darker on the genuine and the printing text on the dial is shaper on genuine and it is VERY often the printing is the main difference when You compare a replica nad a genuine. Because it is much more difficult to make thin text on the dial. Also the screws is thicker at the other end on a genuine. But it is a VERY nice watch Good morning all: First let me say please excuse my poor photography skills. I am not a pro at taking pictures. Anyway, I just received my gen Sumariner LV two days ago and at first I was a little disappointed I also have the Euromariner version of this watch and could not believe just how very close both watches are. They look almost identical! The feel of the Gen is a little better on the wrist, but this could be explained by the fact I know it is the real deal. My disappointment has faded and now I could not be happier with my new watch. As a bonus I no longer have to worry about wearing the Euromariner and being called out. It is that good! The gen will stay on my wrist most of the time. But now I have a beater for when I am out hunting, fishing, doing yard work, etc. Let me know what you think. See if you can distinguish which is the Gen!
cmt_sutton Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 PT (Puretime) http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=81396 this looks very good too though I think the green is so much more distinctive
cmt_sutton Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 sorry precious time, not pure time, who is another great dealer who supplied a really nice PAM 111E to me last year.
mrandazzo Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 If you perform few mods like gen crown, trimming the cgs and removing the engravings on the rehaut, you'll have a very nice rep Congrats for the gen!
yaron Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 This LV from Naarika is not bad either, just need to change to WM pearl and a thinner datefont. I have already the overlay but need to glue it to the DW.
Shadow_ Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 the giveaways are cg's, crown, bezel, and obiouvsly the steel color much darker that gen
Alexi Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 I think the flaws are very obvious, every part looks different. The 5min markers on the dial, the shape of the bezel, the font and color on the bezel insert, the CG, the engraving, the bracelet, the crown and so on...
USMC8404 Posted October 4, 2008 Author Report Posted October 4, 2008 If you perform few mods like gen crown, trimming the cgs and removing the engravings on the rehaut, you'll have a very nice rep Congrats for the gen! Thanks. I have been wanting one for a very long time!
Mickey Padge Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 I think the flaws are very obvious, every part looks different. The 5min markers on the dial, the shape of the bezel, the font and color on the bezel insert, the CG, the engraving, the bracelet, the crown and so on... Are you in the right forum?
EuroTimez Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Nice stuff.... great one... few mods are you good to go. gen or latest ahem "unannounced" euromariner v4?
Alexi Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Are you in the right forum? Are you saying that interest in reps is only for the not so picky? I actually think that the crownguard on the Euromariner is better looking then the gen.
Mickey Padge Posted October 4, 2008 Report Posted October 4, 2008 Well when you say that "every part looks different" and "the flaws are very obvious", you have basically said the watch looks nothing like the original.... Bearing in mind the Euromariner is one of the best Subs available, asking why you are bothering with this hobby is a valid question. After all, with your post it clearly seemed as if only a genuine would ever be good enough for you..... There is a big difference between being "picky" and saying everything on the watch is obviously flawed Cheers!
Noel Fleischer Posted October 5, 2008 Report Posted October 5, 2008 the thing i notice with these mbk based watches is the overly big date mag
stilty Posted October 5, 2008 Report Posted October 5, 2008 No mention of the crown sitting too low vs. the gen? It doesn't matter if every part is 1:1, of even if replaced with gen parts, as long as they keep using a 2836-2, it will always be wrong. The crown position is too far back from the dial side with the 2836-2. Only way to solve it, is to build the case for a Roles 3135 or ETA 2892-A2.
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