luckyman Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 With Quantum of Solace just around the corner, Omega is heavily marketing the 42mm PO to be the new Bond watch. I'm still thinking if I should buy the gen. Now I'm wondering if the rep factories are in the works of a new version of this watch, may it be the normal version or the QoS version? I can already imagine the high demand for this watch. If they can make a super rep of this it'll sell like freshly made hotcakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imranbecks Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) I think there already was a 42mm PO rep made similar to the one in Quantum Of Solace... >>> http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=19919&hl= I still prefer the 45mm PO with rubber strap from Casino Royale.. Getting a rep of it soon but in a dilemma as I don't know which dealer to get it from... Its either Ruby or Joshua..... Any help on which dealer I should get from would be appreciated Edited October 18, 2008 by imranbecks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) I was wondering the same, was just about to make a post out of it when i saw yours. Should we try to get a 4`th gen PO fast or wait? Seems the 4`th gen PO is drying up at the collectors. Anyone? Edited October 18, 2008 by slask111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Nobody knows for sure, but you would have to think that givin the UPO's success, this would be a great watch to release an ultimate version of. Lets hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyman Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Yeah, they should make it quick. Last I heard, the rep factories stopped making the 42mm PO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 4th Gen 42mm version is ok, but not up to today's replication standards. It's better to wait or get the UPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyman Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 4th Gen 42mm version is ok, but not up to today's replication standards. It's better to wait or get the UPO. True, but in the latest bond movie and probably in casino royale, DC wore the 42mm version. Also my wrist is only 6 inches. So i'd probably look like an idiot with the UPO. I want this watch so bad the gen version is just calling out to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieG Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 One can only hope. The UPO is a great watch that just needs lume and AR to be more than adequate. The 42MM is truly an entirely differenty beast than the 45.5MM version. It is far more versatile IMO. So much so for me that I bought a gen 42MM instead os the UPO for just that reason. I'm sure there must be many more here who simply won't buy the UPO just because of the bulk issue and would flock to the 42MM if there were an amazing version of it. The 45.5MM version is fine on rubber as in CR, but on a bracelet it is a bit much and sort of comes off as a clunky design. It is obvious to me that Omega started with the 42MM design and simply made it larger for the 45.5MM. That is one thing that has always peaved me about gen manufactories and I would like to make this point and see how many agree. They many times just take original designs and blow them up without thought to whether it works or not. Bigger is not always better. I have nothing against large or even huge watches as long as they were designed from the ground up to be the intended size. The Rolex DDII is another example of this. Sure, the watch is fine and 41MM will attract buyers, but it is really just a DD with a larger case and as such, the watch comes off as being a little clunky and I dare say novel. I would much rather see Rolex desing a new dress watch to be 41MM or don't do it at all. The watch has just lost all its elegance. Anyone else agree - not about any particular watch (like the DDII or PO) or whether you like it or not, but rather what is your take on this phenomenon in the industry as a whole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 I disagree, I think the 45mm PO is executed perfectly. Lets face it 42mm is small by todays standards, and there is a market for both sizes. I think Rolex has been hurt by its refusal to adapt to the "oversize" craze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieG Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Oh make no mistake, there is no problem with the execution. It is the same as the smaller one in that respect. Valid for sure. I just think that the size craze should be treated as its own design center and not have so many large watches that are simply adapted from smaller counterparts that were the genesis of the design. Breitling is the clear winner in that department IMO. Their watches are designed as there own units to begin with and happen to be large but that isn't the point. You don't see them making a Steelfish in 40MM and then just blowing it up to 44MM as the same watch with everything bigger and selling it. So all I am asking is not opinions about wheher we like huge watches or not or any in particular, but rather what we think about how some companies design from scratch and others just vary sizes in existing designs. For the record to all the big PO owners out there I have nothing against the watch - I had one. I'm just saying that it isn't its own design as it was just expanded from the 42MM. And I don't think 42MM is small by any stretch. It is pretty much an average for sports watches, and certainly not for dress watches which still rightfully fall mostly in the 36-42MM range. Big watches just don't dress up well unless you are 22 and wearing Prada. Rolex knows that it sells more watches to affluent people over 50 who want versatilty so they can wear their sports watches with suits as well. Many guys that age may also like big watches, but they are content to go outside Rolex to satisfy that urge if it comes. They wear 36MM Day Dates or 35MM Pateks with suits and Super Avengers with shorts. They know that it isn't always appropriate to say "Hey look at me and my giant watch..." I think most Rolex owners - myself included - are actually relieved that they haven't changed the original designs or sizes. They are timeless and perfect. It is nice to have that stability still around while the rest battle it out in the size wars. I think it says a lot about any brand (clothing, jewelry, etc.) when their designs are so strong that they don't have to embrace every passing change or fad. Let's face it, most of their competitors would have failed had they not, and yet Rolex sales are still strong as ever. Yet the sales on their redesigned larger pieces are lackluster at best. The consumer is always right... I disagree, I think the 45mm PO is executed perfectly. Lets face it 42mm is small by todays standards, and there is a market for both sizes. I think Rolex has been hurt by its refusal to adapt to the "oversize" craze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 True, but Breitling has large and small versions of the heritage, slightly different in function but similar enough. The super avenger is essentially a oversized chrono avenger or Skyland. The make them a little different but not by much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imranbecks Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 (edited) True, but in the latest bond movie and probably in casino royale, DC wore the 42mm version. Also my wrist is only 6 inches. So i'd probably look like an idiot with the UPO. I want this watch so bad the gen version is just calling out to me Just go get the 42mm gen if you have the $$$ dude Anyway, Craig wore the huge 45mm PO (w/ rubber strap) in Casino Royale.. But converted to a 42mm PO (with SS bracelet) in Quantum.. I think the huge 45mm PO with the rubber strap looks really good for active wear in sports, swimming etc.. Easier said, suited for informal casual dressing occasions. Don't think it goes well with a business suit.. And its not something you would want to wear for a formal dress occasion.. The 41mm SMP is my definite choice for a formal dress occasion and for us wearing business suits.. Actually, come to think about it, the SMP actually goes well for informal and formal occasions unlike the 45mm PO.. Edited October 19, 2008 by imranbecks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Sigh, it seems like the rep factories just give up on some models (good bond smps, black smp) You're right, though, about the hotcakes. The 42mm is the only watch that stands the test of time. 45mm is a fad. With my 6.5" wrists, the UPO looks ridiculous. I've wanted an Omega diver for a while, and was seriously considering the Bond SMP (which should be coming out soon), but I'd prefer the PO. Still, if they perfect the SMP case I might have to pick up a black one. Would that be redundant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenacious_b Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 we should start a petition and see if we can get any traction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 we should start a petition and see if we can get any traction. I don't think petitions work. We are a very small percentage of the rep industry, but probably the most anal. Remember the IWC Mark XVI thread? Tons of dealers saw it, many, including myself, asked multiple dealers about it... nothing. Still want one, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keentje Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I hope they are busy with a 'super' or 'ultimate' PO 42mm. Maybe this is a reason why they don't fabricate the PO 42mm anymore. And i think its a lot different then the IWC. With the upcoming bond movie, everyone wants it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I hope you're right Keentje, I love the 42mm PO and would certainly take it an ultimate 42mm PO above the Bond SMP. Here's to hoping, but my logical side says they won't be releasing an improved version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplehd Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I doubt that they will come out with a new 42 PO. If they do, Im sure, just like other models, one step forward, 2 steps back (hence, 4-5 versions). Just like the UPO, do the following: - Gen Dial - Gen hands - Cheif Double A/R crystal - Swap pearls from the UPO and the PO inserts Bracelet is an issue - we all know that. Go ahead and grab a gen rubber strap or even nato strap. There - you got the Ultimate PO 42mm version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphakazi Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I disagree, I think the 45mm PO is executed perfectly. Lets face it 42mm is small by todays standards, and there is a market for both sizes. I think Rolex has been hurt by its refusal to adapt to the "oversize" craze. I couldn't agree more (especially with rolex) - the 45mm PO imo is the best Omega available - I've yet to put it on kevlar and the rubber strap but I'm happy with mine on ss and leather for now - the leather looks great in a suit $298 from Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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