Gadget Man Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 My latest purchase arrived yesterday and I took a few photo's tonight, so I thought I would share them with you guys. Your comments appreciated as always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitimany Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 enjoy, This DW mystery movement is very similar to a venus 150 movement. Venus 150 Features manual-wind chronograph, 60s, 30/45 min, pillar wheel sub second 13''', Dm= 29mm, H= 5.7mm; 17 jewels; f = 18000 A/h; power reserve 44h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Man Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) So is this a good movement, have the mystery movements proven reliable? A couple of extra pics I forgot to include previously Edited November 13, 2008 by Gadget Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsub5517 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 do you know which Valjoux movement this case takes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Man Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I understand it could take a Valjoux 72 but I couldn't be sure as I'm not an expert on the DW cases, why do you ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadtorrent Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Very interesting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I never met a DW Daytona I did not like. And this 1 is no exception. 1 thing - you might want to begin the process of sourcing a possible donor/replacement movement now. The MM's reliability record is about as spotted as the chs GMTIIC's modded GMT. If you need more info, search for 'mystery movement'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Man Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi Freddy, Yes I have seen mixed reviews and will keep my eyes open for a donor. Am I right in thinking this will take the V72 movement? what would be other possible alternatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyd3 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi Freddy, Yes I have seen mixed reviews and will keep my eyes open for a donor. Am I right in thinking this will take the V72 movement? what would be other possible alternatives? This version will take a Val. 22. You need the sterile DW case (no model or serial numbers) for a Val. 72. It is made to fit the Val. 72. I believe the internal dimensions of that case is slightly deeper to accommodate the movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Man Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Ok thanks for the information, much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mums-mums Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 This version will take a Val. 22. You need the sterile DW case (no model or serial numbers) for a Val. 72. It is made to fit the Val. 72. I believe the internal dimensions of that case is slightly deeper to accommodate the movement. Val 22? Not Val 23? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.ZoSo Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I have a 6263 manual wind. It's not a DW. It has the Seagull St-19 movement in it. Sorry no movement pics, but it looks extremely similar to this so called mystery movement. BTW, The ST-19 is IMO the best chronograph movement you can find in our replica's. It has been labeled by others as "bullet proof" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 The substitute for the MM is the V 23, not the V22. The v23 and v72 are similar, and the v22 and the v71 are similar. But the 71/22 are larger than the 23/72. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Man Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Ok, thanks for the information, I will keep an watch out for a gen Val. 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Thanks for the pics, GM. I just noticed the 727 under the balance of the MM! The v23/v72 are 13 ligne and the v22/v71 are larger- maybe 14 ligne. Early Rolexes (40's and 50's) referred to the v72 movement used as a Cal.13, which is referring to the size of the movement- 13 lignes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Man Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) Yes I had noticed the 727 and wondered if this was normal to see on the Mystery Movement? I couldn't resist a couple more photo's, I really love this watch Edited November 13, 2008 by Gadget Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Some of the later model MMs were stamped with 727. It's interesting that yours was so stamped, but does not have a "Rolex" bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Some of the later model MMs were stamped with 727. It's interesting that yours was so stamped, but does not have a "Rolex" bridge. I've seen one with Panerai bridge Mystery is true mystery when it comes to these movements... I should get mine back soon and test that MM for a while. So far it seems to run OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 In general, the MM is not bad at timekeeping. It is fairly accurate, and has a long reserve...BUT...The chrono section sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 I must say, this MM is certainly that. I've been all through Ranfft looking at 13 ligne chronograph movements and can't find anything like the MM! http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi...&&2uswk I just find it hard to believe. Did the Chinese develop their own chrono movement? As Pitimany says, it's similar to a Venus 150, also bears a slight resemblance to the Angelus 210, but the Angelus is 14 ligne. It didn't come from the Japanese, did it? I sure wish someone would solve this mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Man Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 (edited) I have to say (although it's early days) I'm very impressed with the movement so far, it's currently losing just 7-9 seconds per 24 hours and it feels sweet when it's wound. Edited November 14, 2008 by Gadget Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 the problem with those movements is NOT accuracy! I had a movement just like that and it broke after a while, because the material is really bad, the gears teeth will break off after some time. My newest DW also has a movement with PANERAI bridge, but I also have a DW movement with ROLEX bridge laying around here (which I have to send to dirk ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cableguy Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) Gadget Man - ok where can i get one of these? is this something i can buy from one of our dealers or do these have to be "built" ive fallen in love. i see josh has one http://www.jpc8118.com/rldv01001-updated-v...nos-p-3620.html but it seems that the dial is white? yours looks silverish almost....and the 6 oclock dial is fixed needed. where did u purchase? and does yours move? Edited November 18, 2008 by cableguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cableguy Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 actually i just sent an email to DW hopefully he replies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadget Man Posted November 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Hi Cableguy, Yes, you have to have one 'built' to order. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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