coolfire Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 I think Ubi should be the one writing this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolex_Daytona Ubi & freddy should just re-write the whole Daytona Wiki!
robertk Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Ubi, that is one of the most informative posts on Daytona's ever! thanks. It answers many questions and raises a few. As a previous poster said, the only way to get an accurate one is to build it.
ubiquitous Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 f333- If there's anything that you'd like to add... I'd appreciate it I went mostly off of memory, so I am sure there are spots that are lacking.
freddy333 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 It might be worth detailing the movement options (V23 or V72) for DWs & similar case kits. I think you also mentioned that all of the 1165xx cases were too thick, which is only partially correct. Some of the early secs at 6 versions (like mine) came with nearly correctly sized middle-cases, which I referenced in the Build a Perfect Daytona thread awhile back. You might also include more details &/or links for your 16520 construction projects since these are pretty much the benchmark for frankenbuilders.
ubiquitous Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 It might be worth detailing the movement options (V23 or V72) for DWs & similar case kits. I think you also mentioned that all of the 1165xx cases were too thick, which is only partially correct. Some of the early secs at 6 versions (like mine) came with nearly correctly sized middle-cases, which I referenced in the Build a Perfect Daytona thread awhile back. You might also include more details &/or links for your 16520 construction projects since these are pretty much the benchmark for frankenbuilders. Movement options for the 6263 were listed in the building section... And the thin case variation is mentioned as well. I'll see what I can dig up for in prog build pics for the EP's...
ubiquitous Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 As requested- Some old build pics of the initial stages of an El Primero based 16520: Case and movement: Aftermarket dial fitted to the movement: Test fit to make sure everything lines up: Date mech removal: Setting hands: All together: Add a gen dial: and fin: Current day:
automatico Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 (4) 16520- Asian movement with faux chronograph. These watches have a standard movement inside with a dummy chronograph 'look' to appear as though it is a full functional chronograph watch. I have not seen or handled one of these so I cannot say as to whether the subdials are completely faux/glued on hands, if they act as a calendar function (day/date/month) or if the pushers simply move the hands arbitrarily around their subdials. Nice, slim case, but no functionality. I bought a few Daytonas with Dixmont Guangzhou (DG) movements that have running seconds at 6 but the center second hand runs all the time and the dials at 3 and 9 are calendars. All the subdials are numbered correctly for a chronograph. I took one apart and froze the 6 and 9 calendar hands so they would stay in place. Next, I ground some teeth off the sweep second pinion and cemented the sweep second pinion in place. The movement has offset seconds so it makes no difference if it the center sweep seconds run or not. I installed the dial and remounted all the hands and it worked just fine with the second hand at 6 running all the time and the center (timing hand) and 6/9 calendar hands not moving. The running seconds at 6 is not jeweled so I put some Dri-Slide on the friction points and the watch ran fine until I traded it away. Dri-Slide http://www.uniquetek.com/site/696296/product/T1247
ubiquitous Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Posted June 25, 2009 Very interesting! Might you have some pics of this one, automatico? Would love to see it!
marcoxxx1984 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 Ubi we should add some details about price! How much is for 1 aftermarket 16520 case? Dial? Ep 400 movement?
ubiquitous Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Posted June 28, 2009 I had considered adding a pricing breakdown, but those figures tend to flux and are in no way static. I would hate to set a certain expectation only to have those figures become outdated or inaccurate...
automatico Posted June 28, 2009 Report Posted June 28, 2009 "Very interesting! Might you have some pics of this one, automatico? Would love to see it!" I traded it off, maybe I can fix another one up later on. It takes 3 or 4 hours to change one over.
marcoxxx1984 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Posted June 29, 2009 My 6263 fever is increasing!!!! Hope to find some used deals in our watches forum!
professor_yaffle1 Posted July 2, 2009 Report Posted July 2, 2009 Great post Ubi I've been considering a 6263 project for some time, and this pretty much answered all my questions (and pushed me that bit closer to actually starting )
watchmaker Posted July 3, 2009 Report Posted July 3, 2009 Nice review! Is the David Wong vintage Daytona case considered better quality & accuracy than for example Phong and Vietnam franken cases, when building gen modified movement frankensteiners?
pollux1 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Posted July 3, 2009 Thank you Ubi, fantastic read, now I want a Daytona!
freddy333 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Posted July 3, 2009 Is the David Wong vintage Daytona case considered better quality & accuracy than for example Phong and Vietnam franken cases, when building gen modified movement frankensteiners? As far as I can tell, all 3 use the same case. The differences are in the ancillary parts & assembly quality (or lack thereof), which varies considerably (with each leaving alot of room for improvement/correction).
Chronus Posted July 3, 2009 Report Posted July 3, 2009 As far as I can tell, all 3 use the same case. The differences are in the ancillary parts & assembly quality (or lack thereof), which varies considerably (with each leaving alot of room for improvement/correction). Thanks for answering that.. the Phong and Vietnam cases are so expensive
Biker Posted April 13, 2014 Report Posted April 13, 2014 Very usefully information and learn more to know the direction of thoughts.
Ezio Posted April 13, 2014 Report Posted April 13, 2014 Nice Reading mate really good research also thumbs up !!
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