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Click me Separately, I also found this on AliExpress -- Clean factory Noob Super 4130 movement Automatic Watch Movement 3.6.9 Chronogrpah For Asian 4130 Mechnical 116520 116500

Case & dial look good, but getting a clone Caliber 3285 to look & function exactly like the gen is the key. Can you post macro pics of both sides of the movement?

I don't think there is noob version of this. there are other version with a 4130 decorated as a 4131 with updated rotor

Ok I spent the last 2 days with what time I have trying to find it. Can anyone please share the link? Thanks much

One of Noobs first attempt at a super clone with clone movement. These were $700 in 2017…

62MAS today

I know about Jtime. My friend once came to buy a watch at yours, and he always bragged to me that it worked quite well, looked ok and the price was reasonable.

Don't get me wrong, my GEN Rolex collection (5) outshines my Rep's. But in the "modern" era, its easier these days to live with, and get away with the super reps coming out of VSF, Clean, ZF, PPF, 3KF.... Like you, I can fix the issues, and for those who can't you can pick up a 'backup' VSF for example and still be WAY ahead.

There are reasons to go the gen route -- you lack the skills (or interest) to fix the few minor flaws in the clones (& they bother you), you want to be able to have your watch serviced by a pro with a parts account, you want to post macro pics of your watch on the gen forums, you have the time/money to wait & pay the price of admission, having 'the real thing' is important to you or you are an investor seeking to profit from your Rolex. There may be more, but those come to mind as rational reasons to go gen.

Anyone know when Rolex went from RELIEF/(real)GILT to Printed? About what year / model? (Subs, GMTs) Anyone know of a source of replica/redial vintage dials using the relief vs pad printed gilt? (PM Me if you don't want to share openly). Thanks!

I still have a handful. 🙂

That is fantastic. Amazing how far these have come. My VSF 126610 has been held up next to the real thing, and honestly, $500 vs $12,000-- I see no reason to buy the real thing...

There are two versions of DG3804 out there. The majority have "Rolex (1575) Aligned" datewheels. I built a 1575 with the straight out of the box movement, the font was close enough. LOL, I see this is a response to 9yrs ago. About the same time I built a 1675/3804.

Hi Rolojack, any chance to buy 2 pieces for my 1675? Thank you Inviato dal mio SM-G998B utilizzando Tapatalk

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For anyone curious about or considering the purchase of a 4130-clone-powered 1165xx Daytona -- The Big Kahuna continues to maintain its 1 sec/day regularity & continues to spellbind me with its beauty & reliability. Simply incredible for any mechanical watch, let alone a fake Rolex. As I have mentioned previously, these things ARE expensive -- no getting around that -- but they are an incredible value considering the additional cost, time/effort & games required in order to acquire the gen alternative.

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I will look for that thread, freddy. In fact, I had also scheduled a meeting with DW in Shenzhen, back in 2010. He unfortunately cancelled a few weeks before my trip to Hong Kong, so I instead used my PRC visa to take the train to Guangzhou, where Mary (of Watch International, back in the day) gave me a guided tour of the watch and watch parts markets. She was fantastic, but the whole GZ experience was a bit of a mixed bag for me!

Unfortunately, all of your pic links are broken, but here are a few of my DW frankens (all V72-powered) -- I think you just had to understand that English was not his default language & he used translation software for most of his communications. Because of this, if you did not keep things simple, misunderstandings were possible. That is why so many people had problems dealing with him. I did so much business with DW that we became friends & we had plans to meet in China when I was there to visit with my girlfriend's family. Unfortunately, due to scheduling issues, we were unable to meet. Based on my experience, I found DW to be quite honest, reasonable & bright. I think there was a thread many years ago that discussed this (including comments from DW) that you may be able to find with the RWG search. Whatever the case, I think many would agree that properly constructed Daytonas based on DW parts were classics, including Goldie in the pic above (which was a 1 of a kind custom case that DW designed for me -- without charge!).

When DW got something right, he'd get it incredibly right. Unfortunately, dealing with him was like walking through a minefield--and I consider myself one of the lucky ones!

Still have these watches. I have not been on here for some time as well.