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Morning guys So 3 out of the last four watches I have got from one dealer (all ZF by the way) have had issues! 1) Firstly my Bronzo that I did lots of patination on had loose movement scres when it arrived, no biggie, I dealt with that as I have the tools and basic ability, however after several weeks, more screws flying around and jammed up the spring causing damage. The Bronzo left me on the 7th May and still has yet to be received by the TD as repair costs were something I did not want to swallow again. 2) I ordered my and Fraggles PAM 389 and after a very short period of time Fraggles had a problem with the movement and he got it serviced as none of us like sending back to China for obvious reasons. 3) I ordered a PAM 441 which arrived in great time, but as soon as I wound it the movement seemed ok, but the watch runs for a few hours, losses several minutes per hour and then stops altogether. So as someone who buys a lot of watches as you guys know, I thought this is getting ridiculous and sent the TD an email saying, ' 3 out of the 4 watches you have supplied are not working properly and require servicing/repairing and I am becoming an Unhappy customer' the reply, oh, what bad luck! Praise where praise is due, however these guys must stand by their products, how can they say if it gets confiscated at customs we will send a replacement, however if it is broken or not working properly thats tough, that surely cannot be right? Something to consider perhaps is that we build a league table not only for service/qc pics, communication and delivery time but one that confirms the products relaibility and Fit for purpose use, list the brands and the TD's and let the cream rise and those TD's that the 'Trusted' is found to be misplaced no longer take collectively $ooo's of thousands of our hard earned without any recourse. Rant over but you get my drift! AJ

Only one today. The new TC

There's a difference between buying rep watches and actually stealing a 2900£ watch. I'm amazed that everyone is so okay with this. I'm not. If he has no problem stealing watches in a physical store, he's not going to have a problem ripping you guys off.

...are all from Japan . I sold the main part of my rep collection and went gen...I started my latest WIS life with Seiko and finally got back to Seiko 1. My all-time favourite...A Seiko Marine Master 300 TechSpec: Name: Seiko 300M Auto Divers Marinemaster Ref.: SBDX001 Case: One piece structure, stainless steel Water proof: 300 m water resistance for divers Anti-magnetic Weight: ca. 210 Gram Lugs: 20 mm Diameter: 44 mm (without the crown) Thickness: 14.6 mm Bezel: 1 piece, black print coated, 120 clicks Movement: 8L35 Automatic 26j Hack function & Hand winding Accuracy: +15/-10 sec per day Power reserve: 50 hours Crystal: Dual-curved Hardlex with non-reflective upper coating Lumi Bright: hands and makers Here is one of the best reviews I ever read about it...it's in German but google translate will do the trick http://www.rruegger.ch/seiko_marinemaster.htm 2. Seiko Solar Diver Chrono Pepsi The main reason I bought this one here are the drilled lugs . First I thought about buying a Citizen 8020-53 Pilot Superduper Titan Radio controlled water boiling blow jobable watch...but once bought I had been told it's already sold out and I had to wait some weeks...naahhh... Went for that Seiko instead TechSpec: Stainless Steel Case Stainless Steel Bracelet Solar Powered Quartz Movement Chronograph Function Analogue Display Hardlex crystal Blue Dial White Lumibrite Hands & Markers Red and Blue Rotating Bezel Fold over clasp with push button and secure lock Date Display Between 4 and 5 O'clock Position 200 Meter Water Resistant Screw down crown and pusher Case Diameter: 47mm (wears a lot smaller) Case Thickness: 12mm Weight: 182gm 3. As some of you already know I'm a very ambitious hobby chef . So I spent some serious $$ into knives...one can't have enough good knives 1 Nakiri, 1 Santoku, 1 Funayuki and 1 Yanagiba So...I hope I'm set now...I always do

So i like every one else ordered the pam 382 bronzo transaction as normal great Q/C in a few days shipped and delivered to the ok few days later. Watch arrives i unpack it like a kid to look and see the movement screws all out and the rotor jammed . looked like some damage to one of the winding springs too. so i contact the trusted dealer given standard option you get it fixed or send it back to china after sourcing a repairer sssteel (i will review is awesome service later) i email the dealer. Simple I've sent the watch to be repaired it's costing me 130 euros would you split the cost of the repair or offer me a future discount on purchases. i get the normal oh our margins are too low to help with costs but don't worry we will look after you. I've used the dealer a few times and thought thats fine great thanks so i ordered some more items and emailed its me blah blah broken bronzo cheers for the discount .Waited a week emailed could you send me the discount price so i can pay . Again heard nothing then pm on here oh yes give me your email and i will check and sort out the deal. That was more than a week ago and again nothing so tonight I've just ordered 3 watches from another dealer and will prob order 3 more this weekend once i narrow down my wants list. I think our trusted dealers sometimes need a little kick in the backside to maintain a decent level of service on promises.

My baby is back from Domi

True! May I sponsor also something coming from Italy and specifically from this WONDERFUL and wilde island? Sardinia: Look at the original Pattada blades: ;-) Mike, and specifically for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td6l_HMgfhk

And the wolf rips off the lamb outfit and reveals its true nature and warped mind. So you don't know what 'society' means, or how it is formed or works.

Well rolexuk. Imagine this: you swap your rep Rolex with a gen at the jeweler. He doesn't notice anything. A buyer then comes in. The buyer is a poor schmuck who has been saving up for his dream watch for years. He finally enters the dealer and buys your rep unknowingly. Congratulations, you just ripped off the dealer AND the buyer. And here's the kicker: this happened to me in reality a few weeks ago with a Sinn U1. I purchased a Sinn U1 of which I though it was genuine. The seller was trustworthy and verified. It turned out to be a rep. I was extremely sad and frustrated. It was not the sellers fault, he did right by me and returned my money. But if I knew the turd that inserted the rep into the regular circuit I would have ripped his head off. We rep wearing people are NOT thieves. I'm convinced that in most cases if we could we would buy the gen. So the gen brands are not losing money on us as we were never potential buyers to begin with. Even more so, with buying reps our love for the gen is growing so strong that we might become potential customers.

Latest reply I can not offer that repair cost , our margin are badly low . U can return back for refund or exchange . We don't have that money profit to pay repairs . So my Bronzo arrived today 5 weeks and $35 shipping cost and will be sent to the factory, I will get it back hopefully in a few weeks so that will make it 2 months out in total. It could b eworse I guess, it could hav enever turned up! TD's you simply have to clean up your act and stand by your product, if teh factories are rushing th eguys putting them together gie them 1 minute more to screw the damn movement in properly, not to do so is a false economy and pisses us, your clients off. Rant No.2 over :-)

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