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Comparison Audemars Piguet AP ROO 44 Forged Carbon - (Gen vs Rep) No one done this FC 44 review as yet and I found this information on Chinese website and would like to share with you all here. (21/06/16) ALL CREDIT TO LINGMUWATCH Author. Here are bit of basic information and video of Forged Carbon making video. Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Forged Carbon (26400AU.OO.A002CA.01) Video (How It's Made) : - (First 2 mins) YOUTUBE Video GENERAL : From vision comparison side by side, all parts is in place where it should be, size and dimensions are very close. JF give an impression a bit brighter / whiter, it's because the dial print are slightly wider therefore look more white. DIAL : As discussed previously, GEN dial print is finer and more detail and JF is a bit wide / rough than the GEN. LOGO : In this macro, you can see the Logo and fonts looks pretty close, fonts is the same. Only slight difference of font is REP is bit bolder than the GEN. The square pannel for "Audemars Piguet" on GEN is slight longer than the REP. Therefore REP font has less gaps between alphabets and look bold. LOGO AP on GEN has thinner gap. HANDS : Hands details hardly see any differences between the two. SUB-DIAL : As we can see GEN sub-dial paint are more finer and concentric is more appealing / sharper. REP also done not bad on subdial and concentric but it just to as sharp / fine than GEN. However, these details hardly can be see without a loupe magnifier. DATE : Date frame on GEN has smoother cut around, REP font is bolder than GEN. This is visibly from naked eye. 3D printed date on GEN and REP and quite close on both. AR difference on both GEN and REP. Only thing stands out from the date window is the Index 3 is shorter than GEN, that's because of the datewheel position on the movement. Tachy : GEN font and REP looks very close. Again, GEN slightly sharper. LUME : If we look closer, JF is brighter in general. Looks a bit reverse to the GEN, Index Brighter hands not on the REP. CROWN / PUSHER : Not much differences in general, Pushers seem a bit wider, Logo engraved on GEN looks deeper. LOGO : Logo on GEN is deeper, apart from that it's spot on. REP edges seem a bit sharp tho. SIDE : Because of technology constrain, polishing not as fine as GEN. Slightly more thickness on JF case. On macro, JF has more carbon pattern effect than GEN. MOVEMENT : Movement is the hardest one to 100% copy because technology and budget constrain. From looking on the movement it is a tell tell for someone who know the GEN. However, the movement can't be seen when wearing the watch. CASEBACK : Engraving is bolder compare to GEN. Movement on GEN is finer and more detailed than REP. BUCKLE : Not much differences, GEN is engraved deeper than REP. WEIGHT : Forged carbon is an unique materials, it is very light with total weight of 91.3g. SUMMARY : In summary JF did a great job for this FC 44 ROO but there are still room for improvements on better printing, engraving and polishing. However, if the factory can invest better machine / technology and with enough budget to do so. This will be definitely a SUPER REP (Not including Movement as they've done their best already). Anyway, this is as close as REP can get with 1/40 of the GEN Price. ENJOY!!!

Here in Alaska we have an event called the Valdez Fly-In where the goal is to make the shortest landing possible, and then take off in the shortest distance. You have to stick it between the cones. This is the best short landing I've ever seen. [emoji106] http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=5d3_1468355217

You can find them on Ebay... this seller is based in Spain http://www.ebay.fr/itm/ETA-2836-2-25-jewels-Swiss-movement-screws-116211-/111987784844?hash=item1a12fdfc8c:g:tS0AAOSwiYFXKvw9

I don't post much as I try to keep my ears (eyes) open mostly and read the info on all the boards voraciously. I would love to have Spin participating more. From everything I've read, his work is legendary and his pieces are rare and highly sought after. Seems he enjoys and specializes on some mods that others don't or won't. Seems like he also had been a victim when DW passed his problems down the line. It's almost impossible to absorb a loss when you do something for the love of it and a supplier takes money but can't deliver anymore, and when done for enjoyment, one does not impose a markup to absorb these things. I can relate as I did the same thing in the early days of computers and high end audio (mid '80s early 90s) when I had the time and knowledge to help friends and acquaintances out before availability exploded. Fortunately for me, all my suppliers were reliable and legit.

If by Asia you mean Singapore bro, please let me know. We shall have steak and beer and gossip about how supercilious@aplover really is. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Message crafted while riding a leathery juvenile T-Rex and charging toward the horizon.

@Sogeha great to see another Brit expat here! @Legend sent me a very supportive and helpful PM. I am now taking his advice and despite it being 4:30am where I am, I am trying to learn more about this Franken world (This Domi seems the man!). If anyone knows of any ROO Franken being sold I would really appreciate if I could be informed (just not the rubberclad).

Great comeback, I'm really glad you stuck around rather than cutting and running. Case closed and forgotten. Welcome to the forum. I'm a long time expat Brit as well BTW I just realised it is Legends place to say case closed not mine, but I'm sure he and all my fellow members will feel the same.

Hi guys, I can see your side and where @Legend was coming from. Embarrassingly enough for me this is actually my first ever interaction with any sort of forum in my life! So I am realizing there are certain codes and conducts to these and respectfully you guys have earned your places here. As a brief intro about myself, I am a Brit living in USA. I have a huge penchant for watches and unfortunately many of my peers do not share quite the passion I have. I am very very keen to learn about this side of the industry! And I would love to join all you guys for a beer if only possible!

@sogeha and@flamengoblaze, thank you kindly for your input. I remember speaking with Mr Flamengoblaze via PM and I think we had a good exchange. It is all about the approach. I definitely had no intention of putting aplover down. I've sent him a PM to better explain what I meant. Too bad beers are not allowed to be sent via PMs too, perhaps@nanuq could look into fixing that soon. [emoji23] Thank you once again guys for believing me and understanding what I'm like. I really appreciate it. Message crafted while riding a leathery juvenile T-Rex and charging toward the horizon.

thats the kind of rep that keeps the boys at TRF up at night

Hey jtrunzo, welcome aboard! You own nothing worthy of mention? I doubt that... we don't measure our worth here by the thickness of our wallet nor the shine on our watches. We're all here because we love watches and brotherhood, and that includes everything from a Timex to a hand built Patek. Stick around, and make yourself at home.

5513 PCG today

Had the same issue with mine, the issue is actually that the tension spring is a bit too small in diameter and a bit thin. I bought a replacement from cousins UK which is considersbly more substantial and it's now as tight as a drum Hope that helps Cheers DH

Forgot to share my upcoming project with you guys. I am able to get any AP dials, for the most part, so decided to take on couple of AP frankens, always wanted to have one. Well unfortunately it's going to be two of them. AP classic Panda and a little more challenging Bumble bee. The reason why I like these builds is not because of the uniqueness of the watches or the various challenges involved but also because this way you get to meet people who are truly passionate about watches and good at what they do. I'm fortunate enough to meet some really good folks because of these projects and now consider them good friends. This is going to be a long project but an exciting one and I'll keep you all posted. Hopefully from my experience I'll be able to share some useful information which might benefit other members looking to do something similar. Enough talking and enjoy some eye candy. Bumble bee needs a tachy which hopefully will be here soon. Enjoy and merry Christmas to you all Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk