AMK000

Time to decide.

What we are left then ??:

- Girard-Perregaux The Sea Hawk

- Breguet Transatlantique XXL

- EBEL 1911 BTR GMT

BTW: I love them all. If one of these comes up (plus some others previously eliminated) I will propably get them ..... though I will not loose my sleep for them.

Here we go. Elimination Technique again.

ELIMINATED

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- Girard-Perregaux The Sea Hawk: Love it. 42 mm watch. But another divers watch ??? Not for any timne of the day. So I will skip this one

- EBEL 1911 BTR GMT: Love it. 44.5 mm watch. Unusual. Not any reps around. Dressy and casual. But ... I dont know ... maybe the screws on the bezel ??? My heart is bleeding .... but I will skip this one (sorry By_Tor).

MY WINNER

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- Breguet Transatlantique XXL: 42.5 watch. Dressy and casual. No reps arounds, 10+ combos to choose with. One of the best dials. An "Aeronavale" model can also be produced out of this. Ladies models also availbale (if any ladies want to vote)

More:

http://www.prestigetime.com/items.php?acti...to=&start=0

Hard to decide , no ???

I will follow the "decide by elimination" technique.

ELIMINATED (personal opinions - dont want to offend anybody)

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- Blancpain 50 Fathoms: Not really. (Ugly Rubber band. With this bezel reminds me Chanel watches. With SS band looks ... very common and usual watch. Is it 40 mm dia ??)

- Iwc Aquatimer: Not really. Soon the market will be packed with these (CHN rep makers are already make them)

- Chopard Pro One: Even though nice, Not really (reminds me very much the Paul Picot Prol and I think I have already seen some bad reps of it in ioffer so to a degree is already out there)

- Tifany & Co: Aren't these guys making fashion Jewelry ??? Not really.

- Lange: Not really (I have already 4 dress watches)

- Zenith: Not really ( With this bezel with stars looks like an "Americas Army watch" .... and the ss band ...is that kitchen tool for making cheese salad ?)

.....now we are left with:

- GP Sea Hawk

- Brequet

- Ebel

Hard to decide ...... thinking , thinking .....

..... thinking , thinking ......

BTW: I believe that we are doing a mistake not to add an ORIS (eg: TT1 Divers) , but I guess is a bit late now.

..... thinking , thinking ......

I think we need to look at this from a dealer's perspective with regards to popularity in sales.

Am I wrong in assuming that it starts with how many know about the brand, or the make of the

watch we select ?

Size has also to play a part,..

Some of us love 44mm watches, some 40, but what is the most popular and user friendly ?

We also need to consider the thickness of the piece.

What are the percentages of those who enjoy a 44mm piece that will absolutely not wear a 40

to 42mm, and vice versa ?

Does a Dress, or Sports model hold the most potential ?

Am I clear that the SeaHawk, Blancpain 50 Fathoms..the Vintage 300m are three of our major

suggestions. ?

What other sersious contenders am I missing ?

Please chime in again, with the above thoughts

in mind or add some flesh onto the guidelines that I am proposing....

@ RT

I think you should also add to the above conditions, the possibilities (which may be hard to guess) that the watch we choose is also planned to be produced by the other CHN rep makers.

If that happens , will Jay be able to compete with the CHN rep makers which will fill up the market with the same watch and at a lower cost ???

I guess they can produce cheapper than him, there will be more competition, ..... cost wise it will be an attractive option any more.

This exactly (+/-) is what happened with the IWC Aquatimer Cousteau Diver and combos of it.

Others will start making it soon , so I guess is out of the list.

I also think that OMGAs, RX, BR, TAGs, PAM, etc... should also stay out of the list since are potentially replicated by others too.

Oh no , Can't take it any more so many new watches .... the fever starts again:

Priorities:

1) RX EXP II White, with correct date font, long GMT hand and blank rings around the dots (on the way)

2) OMGA PO 45 mm (yes I am waiting for the 7th version ... it should come)

3) New AP RO

4) Breitling Steelfish Superocean (my very first Breitling)

5) RT/Jay new watch (I guess this will take 4 to 5 months to have it ready)

6) New IWC Auqatimer C.D. listed here

7) Jessica's ass pictured above (.... I think I will put this 1st n the list).

.....btw , no Panerais guys ????

Until production I suppose it's only a Big Bang theory at the moment?

JTB

.... and on top Paul gets no Pay Pal ...... so, no,no, no I am afraid.

Very elegant.

Old poll.

An I agree with Kruzer. More options should be added

Jay (Silix-Prime, for those who don't know him) did put some sort of limit and RT mentioned it in tyhe very first post. Guess what, none of your watches fit the criteria. This makes me think even if he did post more precise details, no-one would read them.

So Jay is Silix. Thanks

Then no paypal ??? (if I am not wrong he stopped taking pay pal .... but since I never baught from him cannot really tell).

Regarding the watches that I proposed.

I have red the instructions from RT and I believe others did too.

Though since I am not a movement expert its very likely that some of the watches that I proposed cannot be made .... which also the case with many of the watches proposed here (....still I believe that the Bulgari GMT and the ORIS pointer date can be made with these movements - even Asian 21J can do this).

Any way ... I will wait for the final list and I will vote then.

Answer me damn you

WHO'S JAY ????? SILIX ????

..... just curious

Tens and Hunderds of options here.

@ Richard: If you keep this thread alive for 2-3 more weeks , we will have almost 95% of all the watch brands and models in the market.

I still believe that if Jay (btw , I am asking again , who's Hay ??) does not limit our options to something more specific we are ...... pissing against the wind.

We gonna end up with watches that cannot be made for one reason or another (case , bezel , band etc...), hard to find , too expensive to buy, CHN rep makers are also planning to make them soon, etc..... so many many reasons.

Any way .... even though I like many of the watches shown here and I will propably buy them if they ever make them (I doubt that most of them can be made) ...... here are my options:

1)

2)

3)

In any case I will wait for the final pool and I will vote then.

BTW: Are we going to see a prototype before we place the final order ??? Will Jay agree to that ???

well .... everything in the rep world is a gamble.

If the dealer replaces a defected watch , go for ETa if not go for Asian.

He says it must be based on the following movements,..eta-2836/2824/2892/6497.

Also, since he is going to purchase a gen to model the rep from, we should keep the actual

cost of the piece within the realms of acceptability.

Also makes for a watch that is realistic for normal ownership..

@ Richard ,

Who's Jay ????

"Absorbing ther Cost of the genuine and a watch that is realistic for normal ownership":

What does this means ??? 1500 - 2000 - 3000 USD ???

That can make a hell of difference at the time you choose a watch.

Can Jay define / tell us, the aprox lower and higher price limits (for the genuine to be replicated) ???

Thats a hell of a BB (big baby).

Will be with 7750 Angus ??? Any other versions / combos ???

FLAW ???: well , I am not sure but I believe there is no gold bezel version. Only SS or black ceramic versios.

Thanks Andy and thanks PT.

I got the answer I was looking for

http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=16344

The first to go out will be the SS version with SS bezel

How do you know that ???

This version I think has a "two tone" SS band.

It seems that our dealers don't really know what HBB will come out or they haven't red that topic (... I think is the first one).

Any way,....... I will try to revive this topic and add a bit of knowledge regarding the HBB.

Here are some different versions (genuine) and the story of the white HBB.

Various bands/straps and bezel versions

HBB Red and Rose Gold

HBB SS bezel

HBB St.Moritz

HBB White and story (... could'nt find a regular white - dont know if it exists)

Face to Face with another big baby (from Timezone)

Technical details

Case: Diameter 44.5 mm, in red 18K gold

Lateral inserts: Kevlar

Movement: Mechanical chronograph movement with automatic winding

Caliber: Hublot HUB44, 252 components

Escapement: Glucydur spiral

Power Reserve: 42 hours

Day-date indicator: Trapezoid window at 4.30

Oscillating weight: Tungsten with black PVD-coated dimpled surface

Dial: Struck Carbon Sapphire with appliquéd indices in vertical satin-finish steel

Hands: Faceted, sand-blasted, rhodium-finish with photo-luminous coating

Bezel: Ceramic secured with 6 titanium “H”-shaped screws

Butterfly Disks: Kevlar

Crystal: Double-face anti-reflection sapphire

Winding crown: With natural black rubber insert

Push Buttons: Rectangular with natural black rubber inserts

Water resistance: 100 meters

Bracelet: adjustable in natural rubber with folding clasp

Retail price tax included: 12 500 euros (red gold), 6 600 euros (steel and rubber)

Versions available: "Big Bang" has been launched in steel and rubber, red gold and white gold with black, white, steel or tantalum on a black or white rubber bracelet, ceramic lunette or a superb steel bracelet with ceramic inserts. A special “Yacht Club de Monaco” edition will also be on sale in a limited edition of 250 watches as from the autumn.

... taken from the Watch Quote

http://www.thewatchquote.com/Hublot-Big-Bang-No_4248.htm

PS: Come on dealers. Give us some info.

Lets have some excitment and expectations regulation and control ... ...... or

As title says ,

There is a "new" HUBLOT Big Bang (Black Dial only ???) coming soon.

Andy has confirmed it , Joshua and other dealers propably will also get them.

Can one of you dealers provide us with some preliminary info , specs , pics , version of band , etc... ???

Would be appreciated.

Cheers,

AMK000

My Panerai 111h. Haven't been able to take it off my wrist for days.

Have you tried water and soap ???

Lots of history here. Good to know all these.

Though at the very end, watches are like, food, perfumes, clothes, cars , women, etc... completely subjective and a matter of a personal taste.

Personally I still like PAMs but I also like the variety of other brands too.

Any way.

The question is if we will see during 2007 some really and trully new and exciting models (like 105, 108, 121, 156,162 etc..) or we will continue with the "face lifting" of existing models and small variations of models which we have already seen here ????

Who knows ??? If the second one happens (very likely) .... I will be personally very disapointed.

Cant be !!!!!!

Photo trick or the bezel has really improved a lot ????

Cant see the (wrong) watermarks on the bezel.

Nice.

I will bookmark it.

This thread is a bit old (sep 26).

Admin , can you give us an update of the situation ????

Hmmmm .....

Lets say that PAMs are just .... warm (temparure has fallen quite a lot ... which is normal since you cannot stay hot for almost 3 to 4 years as PAMs did).

Its also quite clear (to me at least) that CHN rep makers are swifting attention to other brands.

For every PAM new model that comes out you get 4 to 5 new models on other brands. That was not case 12 to 22 months ago but it is now.

Also , on the PAM side , the new models that comes out , are not (in many cases) trully new models. Are simple variations of an existing one (eg: North Pole vs North Pole GMT).

12 months from now PAMs will have less fans so then we will see who are true PAM fanatics (less in numbers I guess but not few any way).