Noel Fleischer

I also put on my PAM 089 gray dial from DSN

congrats- and i think there IS a difference in finish between the gens and reps personally. the new BK/WM9 YM i have may be the exception, however. i bought a gen TT when they came out about 2 years ago. i also have the SS rep- for $188 its a bargain!

i have a PVD PR model from getat. for about $100 it's pretty nice. the PR function works well and lasts at least 40 hrs. also keeps good time.

Me too- love the BK/WM9 YM

you can get some decent reps (or homages) for about $100. try PWC over @ RepGeek. he has 111, fiddys, etc for $99. Josh or WatchEden also has tons of PAM'S for under $200.

lefty PAM sub this morning

stan at Panatime is a very good guy. always fast and reliable. the straps are very nice for the money. yeah don't forget the RG discount. if you're in new york you can go in person and get some great deals.

sorry to hear about the problems.i bought 1 DSN- 089 and had no problems. i will agree that except for BK; who only sells Rolex; there is hardly any QC from the dealers here. i've about finished my collection (at least 50 reps and maybe 18 gens) and i too have become frustrated by the issue of qc especially with the movts.many of the reps have had to be fixxed sometimes costing almost as much as the watches themselves. it has become almost impossible to find a gen swiss eta movement, even when you pay extra for it- most of the dealers lie about that too.i usually factor $150 0r so into every rep for future repairs. then its not to aggravating.

nice- is that the new DSN $800 power reserve? i just got a marina militare homage pvd/pr for about $100. not as nice as this

Sorry guys but IMO- Rolex sport watches need a SS bracelet. but i gotta admit i've seen some gen gold Daytonas on leather that look pretty nice. PS. i like Josh but when it comes to movements i don't listen to everything he says.

I agree, there's not much to get there. i live here and stop buying years ago. you are usually much better off getting stuff here.

just a few of my favs- BK/YM9 Sub & YM; HB BB; Fer 008; Breitling SOSF PAM Ultimate 104, 088,etc.

welcome. the main problem with collecting reps, as you have seen, is the lack of quality control especially with the movements. i have close to 40 reps and would say that at least 1/4 had to be fixed. you need to find a rep friendly watchsmith(who can fix chronos) or send to The Zigmeister or rex. at this point, i usually factor $100 into the cost of a rep for repairs. even then its a good deal- if you spend $400 for a 5k watch.

nice collection- congrats.

i am not a metalurgist but i can say that the wrapped watches Josh or other dealers sell is worth the difference. the 18kt. plated wears off faster. also the main difference is the sides of the midlinks are also covered on the 'wrapped' i have some TT TWBest rollies for about 3 years w/o any signs of wear on the gold. i think the mid links may actually be 'gold filled' or solid 10kt. gold.- this has been debated here many times. i'm not sure but they look good!

I just got this Franken 114 from a guy @ RG. the dial is gen (lume is pretty blah) with gen croc strap. i paid alot of $$ but still less than a Little Hero piece for $1200

wow- the sub dial spacing is way off from the gen.

i agree with most of the stuff posted. i have a Davidsen 089 and its very nice. he offers alot of models that other dealers don't sell. he is harder to deal with and is slow to respond to emails- sometimes not at all. most PAM guys recommend him for the hand wound stuff (111, 112, 113 etc ). some recommend Josh @ perfect clones for the ulimate 088, 104,199 or other automatics. Sead and PWC are @ RepGeek and also have some good PAMs. PWC has many in the $99 range- really a good buy. DSN does not sell the submersible models or Ferraris. the FER are good reps and for $300 you can get them at alot of dealers.

i have an older regatta 40mm rep i got from a scam site 2-3 years ago. it works well (abit fast) but otherwise looks quite nice on my gen bracelet for an old 050. sorry for dup pix

i've become something of PAM'aholic, with about 12 now in my collection.the straps are addicting as well. i love the PVD- that's my next one (i hope the last for now). i've been thinking of a 026 by DSN. a little sample:

whatever it is; it looks great!

i like the white dials too- 113, 251 and i just got a 114. also got plenty of black dials, 1 grey 1 blue!

today also a Tag

saw some Daylight today