Pugwash

Fix the white balance. See lesson three below my sig.

The amount of crap that has been forgiven here, I'm shocked Elliot has been singled out to be unforgiven.

We'll get no closer to the truth: It's a waste of time.

Oh, and you're just quoting from here. If I were you, I'd stop trying to define time. Better men that either of us have tried and failed. We're all about measuring it here, not defining it.

Everything is already in motion. If you walk away from your watch, it's the same as it being moved away from yourself. Wearing a watch and moving with it means that it marks time at the same rate relative to you. "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." - Ford Prefect.

I'm starting to think you don't know what time is. Still, you have already assumed I am arguing to an agenda, so nothing I can say will convince you that I actually know what I'm talking about and that I see your point as a childish point-scoring exercise, so I'm going to graciously bow out of this discussion as it's obviously going over your head. Here's my closing argument: The speed the earth spins at does not affect in any way the pasage of seconds, minutes and hours. An hour is 3600 seconds and a second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state (at rest at a temperature of 0 K) of the caesium-133 atom. No amount of planetary rotation can change this and this is what my watches try to approximately measure. Your effectively saying your cup measures water better than my sandbag. Of course it does, but we're measuring sand. Carry on, I'm done here.

The extra day is nothing to do with this. The extra day is because a year is slightly longer than 365 days.

You're completely missing the point. Our entire calendar is based on mean solar day. Your bus timetable is based on mean solar day. Timezones are based on mean solar day. Tracking the passage of time is based on mean solar days and watches track the passage of time. You can flowery-nicey it up any way you like, but you're contradicting not only common sense but your country's official measurement of time. Will the trains take any less time to get from A to B because the day is shorter? You're trying to use the length of the day as an all-winning argument. Stop it, it doesn't work like that.

Watches keep track of hours, minutes and seconds. They do this much more accurately than a sundial. That's the point here. For the date, we also use mean solar time and not actual solar time as the date is a construct based on passing hours, not the position of the sun. In other words, the time of day has very little to do with the actual position of the sun in the sky, and Sundials measure the position of the sun in the sky. QED: Watches tell the time more accurately than sundials.

Yes: Class.

Thanks. As you can see, I need a PAM to make it complete. I mean I have the holy grail Timberland Quartz Chrono genuine already ...

I'm changing my choice. I'm on the GST.

If I charged $2000 for this, it wouldn't make the escapement into a Tourbillion ...

... but do post some pictures.

Thanks. This is exactly what I was looking for.

That's not a Tourbillion. You can see it clearly in the pic, it's a regular escapement.

Well, whatever the case, Last night I put everything back the way it was in the first photo and it's running better than before. Obviously, I need to wait a day or two to be certain it doesn't randomly stop, and I'll book it in for a full service, but at least it seems to run ok.

You'd be surprised. I am well aware of the Equation of time and the definition of a day that you're trying to sneak by me. A mean solar day is exactly 24 hours long. An actual day can be between 22 seconds shorter and 29 seconds longer. A Sundial can vary between 16 min 33 sec fast and 14 min 6 sec slow. It gets it right once or twice a year. Apparent solar time is not mean solar time. Watches show mean solar time, sundials show apparent solar time. I still fail to see your point. Sixteen and a half minutes out is a lot in anybody's book.

He only writes part 2 if he wins that fancy watch. Gun to your heads.

Your language? Bloody Scots claiming English as their language.

Yay Me!

That's a loaded question. Firstly, a sundial at 10pm is useless. Secondly, just because once a year it's dead-on-balls-accurate doesn't mean it tells time more accurately than your watch all the time, it merely means it's self-correcting. What you meant to say was "A Sundial can tell time more accurately than your watch in a few very specific instances under specific circumstances, weather permitting."

Or, I can refer to the "Continuity" photos I took of the movement before I started the work. Like a photographic undo button, unless of course this permanently breaks the movement. Thanks, JJFlash.

Yup, this is indeed the case. Check out Snopes for more info, and this Cambridge University page for an in-depth breakdown.

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