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glad you said clarks are better as those are what i have been using in my last few

whats wrong with the MBW hands?

It is not just the chinese that are sloppy with QC i was helping out at a watch making seminar last weekens and one of the students opened his laco flieger and found 2 screw missing in his swiss eta

it is just a wooden case holder I hold it free hand but i could clamp it down, when jusr enlarging lugs free hand is not a problem, drilling new ones will need more controll so i would clamp it to the x y table

Made mine my self teinnind with a good drill pres x y table and some hss thick shaft drills cooling oil and a steady hand

1680 for me

Also when you compare a drilled case side with gen spring bars installed against a standard rep the difference is dramatic, also on the vintage case the ease of removing a bracelet take seconds with gen bars installed. It can some times be a pain drilling the lugs and the end links and last link of the bracelet but it is worth it, if you need lugs enlarged i have a good set up to do it. one i did the other day and some others you may notice that the top two cases were drilled at 1.5mm which is a little large the botom case is 1.3mm which is a far better size from looks and fit. I am so happy with the 1.3mm setup i have now in conjunction with my jig that drilling lus is a brease.

I hope all went well, I have one MBW that leeks at the crown so i am waiting for a new one to arrive but apart from that the rest have all been no problem

Prety damn good

Gen? or relume?

Still the franken 1016

Bon voyage, gute reise, safe journey and have a good time in MBK,

it may be worth you reading this post on TZ UK it is a full tear down and comparison of the seagull variations and linked in there is another comparison.

Ok well i mesured 10.66 but the variation may be the overlay positioning, it may be be that the error we are seeing whith these cartel dials is just the size of the window that is making it look odd have you got a face on shot of yours after modding the dial?

Unfortunatly, the hand sizes and dial feet ar different, so to swap a 4813 for an ets you will need new hansa and use dial dots to secure the dial, if the rep is using an date overlay then that is about the only part that is transferable

Is this not what V (member here but has not been about for a while) did about a year ago, he had a load of CGs made from a gen and then sold them, (not cheep if i remember)

If any one has one still in bits could they mesure the date wheel alignment, ie from the seconds pinion to the out side of 23 (widest number i think) Good work Dizzy

"Yous use your mouth pretter n $20 whore" But it still look like siht, send it to me and i will ensure it is disposed of correctly

I had 2 a red and a white but i sold them, i liked them but as you say the height is an issue, the 1680 and 5512 sits a little lower and lighter, why not get a cartel 1665 and try it, if it does not suit sell it on.

Snap A bit of a 1016 day today for me as well My font on the 3,6and 9 looks a bit thicker than yours, Mine is supposed too be a gen dial, but yours looks good too, is yours gen?

A great project, it is going to cost you a fortune to lume it in tritec though

Good looking watch you built there mate. I have to say i prefer the plastic bezel

Well i am not sure about the PT, are they different from the Cartel ones, the the qualitys are:- they are cheep accesable slow beat movement. Similar (not same) to gen construction The down falls as far as i see are The date wheel/dial position the standard crystal has next to no magnification the lug holes are in the wrong position to the gen I would still rather start with an MBW case from what i have seen

Dont buy it, just dont do it, WTF some of those people were propperly crying cause they could not get one and then one of them just trys to sell it on for a fast buck futher perpetuating the self inflated value of what is a

yep