JoeyB

Because the 1575 movement 24 hour hand is not independently settable and every gen 1675 has the 24hr hand in set in normal sync with the time - i.e. at midnight all hands are pointing at 12 and at noon the hr and min hand are up at 12 while the 24hr hand is at 6 and so forth.  Seeing a 1675 with the hands any other way either says your watch is fake or you put the hands on wrong.

So, regardless of where you are in the world, when it is midnight where you are at, and your watch is set to where you are at reading midnight, the GMT 24 hour hand is reading the very same time?

Yes...

Thanks for the clarification.

To me, it makes more sense to set and leave the GMT hand set at GMT/UTC and move the bezel for different time zones. Unscrewing and screwing the crown/tube to set puts more wear on the weaker part than using the bezel.

If the GMT hand is set to GMT/UTC how is that a 'tell'?

Pfffffffft, I use mine as a compass.  Point the arrow at the Sun, then 12:00 points north.

I'd have though that everything points North up there.

It's more accurate for you than those further South as well.

The GMT/UTC 24 hour hand must be set to your local time zone. And it only works in the Northern Hemisphere, and only when Daylight Savings Time is not in effect. The further away from the equator you are the more accurate the reading will be.

If you look at the pic in my signature you will see that the time is 10:24 P.M. local, and the 4th hand is pointing between the 3 and 4 on the bezel. That tells me it is 3:24 A.M. UTC/GMT.

For Spain, being UTC/GMT +1 you turn the bezel so that the 1 o'clock marker is at the top, or '12' position. Then read the hour that the 4th hand is pointing to on the bezel. For any of the UTC/GMT '+' hours move that number directly to the '12' position.

In this picture the bezel is set to -10 UTC/GMT, the time in Hawaii. For minus UTC/GMT you subtract from 24 (24 -10 =14, and move the 14 to the '12' position) Local time was 11:45 A.M., and it was 6:45 A.M. Hawaii time. And it was 4:45 P.M. (16:45) UTC/GMT.

On all my GMTs, 6542, 1675, 16710 and 116710, I set the 24hour GMT hand to Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)/ Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). Then turn the bezel and read the time for the zone I need from the bezel.

Ah, 'Who has the best Sub',  the eternal question. The best advice is to read, read and read some more, The 'Search' function is your friend. There are tons of testimonials with pictures here, along with critiques. Trusty Time is a trusted dealer, and we have several more trusted dealers as well. 

This reminds me so much of when I was a moderator over on the other RWG when Joey got banned. He's like a friggin' bull dog that bites and just wont let go, no matter how senseless it gets.

Fortunately, it is never senseless. 

Why are half the posts on this thread by Joey?

This sounds like a fairly straight forward case of a wrong done against many many members here...

I was called out after not posting in this thread on the first 3+ pages. 

Read my posts. Members have been wronged, but there is more to it. 

Very 5th grade.

 

Thanks for the good laught, I'm out. There are plently other folks to keep you busy.

Sorry. I was trying for 4th grade to make certain you could understand it. Maybe you could get someone to explain it to you. 

Not sure if bad faith or mental disorder...

Based on what you post, I'd say you have a mental disorder. How is your rant on RWI going? Did they get the vigilantes put together yet? 

No, just ignore him. Simples.

You didn't. You couldn't. In fact, you asked for it. Now enjoy it. 

Thanks to JoeyB this thread once again turned into complete sh!t. Please lock this thread B.

Thanks

With all due respect, I'd suggest you go back and look who turned this thread for you. I hadn't posted in this thread and had no intent to do so until one tried to play cutesy, and the other posted my name. See reply #60.  I was called out, and will answer. 

Methinks the troll has failed formal deductive logic...

That's odd. It looks as though you are the troll who made a long, many page thread on another site bashing this site.  You initiated the thread bashing RWG on TTK's RWG. And it is right here in this very thread that you tried to stir the pot by inviting me in with your post. TTK has certainly lowered his standards for a lap dog in having one like you. 

I got robbed by a proven junkie lying thief. Im part of a 20+ plus member pm that knows I'm right. I don't need to prove anything to a nothing big mouth troll like you. If I'm out of control I'm sure ill be told to be a good boy by my mods. Of course I'm mad i got robbed by a junkie lying thief. To top it off i got jerkofffs like u telling me im wrong. I made sure i posted this on every forum. I love how you know this since you were banned on the other RWG. This mean you go on there under a fake name. What a loser. Lol. Anyway i posted on all the other forums about this scammer, This was done after my man mike on bike went out of his way, (you know him as lair number one since you also called me a lair) to find out the truth about this piece of shittt. Mob went and did some thorough research, he didn't sit behind his keyboard like the big mouth troll that u are. I'm just posting a few nuggets about this scamming scumbag. Believe me theres way more. When I'm allowed to ill post the rest. As for you, for you to still be sticking up for this thief just shows me that your a future scumbag scammer yourself so everyone take a good read on this troll for future reference. Anyway since im a foul mouthed guy go fukken kill yourself you fukken jerk off troll.

You have proof md2020 is a "junkie"?? Show it.

You are the troll. I come here, not trolling other sites.

You have proved you are out of control, have no self control at all, and now verify that fact again.

Yes, I was banned on the other RWG, and no, I do not go there, nor have a name to go there with. Those spreading lies like that would be the "loser".

You make it worse, and have the other forums bashing this forum with your incessant, misplaced whining.

I didn't call anyone a "lair". I did call out the lies that were told here, and the liars who told them. 

You have nop clue what I've done, but that doesn't stop your uneducated and ignorant rants. 

I have yet to stick up for md2020. I've no doubt you can't comprehend that fact. 

I'd think that most would be very wary of dealing with you. 

And in closing, thank you again for verifying all I posted. 

No, Joey you are the one making things worse. You ask why others who aren't missing watches are posting so why are you posting? Just because someone signs up to the forum and plays nice for a while doesn't excuse them stealing others members property. You seem to be imaging some code of honour that doesn't exist - rwg ain't the army, son.

Nope, I didn't ask that. 

I didn't make a reply to this thread until one member decided to play cutesy, and another member posted my name to that cutesy reply. By that they asked me to join in.

I have yet to make ANY defense of ANYONE stealing a member's property or anything else. Where did you get that from?

The 'code of honor' on this site is that of the membership as established in the rules of the forum. http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/24786-read-our-forum-rules/  In particular, but not limited to, #s 5, 7, 8 and 15 have been violated in all these md2020 threads by several members, and three in particular multiple times. My objections and defense is directly in regards to those rules and nothing except those rules. 

I am not your son. 

What do people want?

 

For the problem to continue, maybe even flourish?

 

Or temporarily forget the differences of opinion and together tackle the problem head on?

 

 

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/divide+and+conquer

People want the truth. The things said about md2020 may be true, or might not be, in part, or not at all. But those casting the unfounded accusations are making the problem worse, as you said. 

Wasn't expecting any less.

Good. I'd feel bad if you were disappointed. 

Mike on the bike proved that our watches were stolen. He might not have proven that on the forum but I'm sure there are 20 forum members that are happy to agree that m on bike did so. Oh I'll also add a mod or 2 to that list. Now for the person that called him a lair and insisted that he was lying and caused a shitt storm over it I would ask our members here to ask our mods for some type of ban. This member disrupted a very important thread we had going about a known scammer. he slandered a unbelievable good forum member that if it wasn't for him we would have not known half the things that the scammer was doing and was getting in trouble for. This member contributed nothing to the last thread and he for some strange reason is trying the same thing here. He was a member of another forum and he was banned for his nonsense which I really care not to know of. We been trying to resolve our problems with the scammer since July and because of this disruptive member trying to sabotage our last thread probably caused a great deal of harm. He is again trying to do this here and I would like everyone's help by tuning him out and also to ask a mod to ban him.

Whoever could you mean? 

We have members here who have had no problem and in fact good experience with MD2020. And we have those we know who have issues with MD2020, including one of our Admin. Up until two weeks ago everyone in question was in line to get their proerty back, repaired and finished. So, what happened two weeks ago? We know that some went to a PM, do not know what was said or done, but do know that it was reported by one of the PMers that MD2020 was once again PO'd by someone there and told them all to do something physically impossible with their watches. 

We also know that some here chose to cuss out a fellow RWG member, pile on, tell lies and perpetuate fabricated baloney. 

That would be you. 

Tonyyammine, on 01 Nov 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

This guy has been lying and scamming us since July. He cause us to argue with members for no reason because if some of these members knew what we now know about this junkie lying thieving scammer they would have not said a word.

 

And now more of your lies? A "junkie"??? That "junkie" garbage is now posted on other watch sites, thanks to you. And RWG is being bashed again on two sites, thanks to you.

It looks to me that your inability to control yourself, your incessant attacks, your need to use cussing, your failure to be honest, and your penchant to make up baloney only serves to make the matters worse. And now you want to ban a fellow member for disagreeing with you and your methods? Your actions are that of a child throwing a tantrum.  

I wouldn't necessarly rely on this. Even Snooki has fanboys.

I'll treat your advice with all the significance it deserves. (flush)

Watching you find new ways to embarrass yourself used to be quite funny, but we're getting to the point where it's getting embarrassing for everyone.

That's odd. My PMs say otherwise.  Must be a personal problem. 

 And if we do it right, we (well, I've given up on my $320) can get our property back and help a fellow human being thrive in the future.

 

You got all your watches back exactly as you directed months ago. You've been 'reminded' of this in the last two threads. Yet you try this baloney again? 

 

friedsod, on 01 Nov 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

i like to choke. you have moustache. yes?

TTK I presume? 

Lol! A brand new, first time post! I wonder who that might be? Did your master have to come and rescue you? Good help is so very hard to find.