I could not have said better myself mia pizano Im sorry I should have been more specific. Have you looked at any of the traditional Panerais,? The 111, GMT, destro, Flyback, or chronos like the 196 and 250. The orig Panerais with the big crown guard are very cool. I did not like them when I first saw them, now I love them. They look especially nice on a big thick beefy strap. If you have anymore questions please dont hesitate, PM me If you wish. Salute Mike