lanikai

who does this ? how do you have access? what is the cost? what is the turn around? how can we verify?

Welcome .. Komo Mai !!!!.. OS... enter a realm of great Obsessions ... plural cause we are truly more than just watches' Please join the New Member raffle for a freebie Panerai.. aloha~Cheers Lani

bruddah H... Cuz,.... us guy's say Amene... same... Amen Aloha Ke Akua.....God is Love..." Akua". different but same ... Ohana ..=Family,.. different but same...but I wouldn't speak the pidgin if I went to Cali.. no one would understand,,.... cept U brah...

if .."ma baddd" is not acceptable then Hawaii is not the place you want to communicate ... cause ..."ainokea"... I don't care... "wat u tink" .... what you think... "cause us got one mo betta way of talkin dan u guys"= because we actually understand each other....."an if u no like da way us guy's use mo betta slack key englishh, den dats yo problem"=If you really dont care for the way we annunciate our grammar then that is your problem... "Wat bodda u ?" =... what's wrong?? does that bother you ?... "cause if can .. can .. if no can.. no can.." =because if you can that's fine.. and if you cannot that's fine also... "So no make fun eh,.. cause we get our own kine pidgin english.... what ? still bodda U ? Tuff."=So don't be so condesending because we have our own english,.. I hope that doesn't bother you ? If it does .. Oh Well... ... ..."kay brah? bombye pau.."= okay sir !! because after awhile it will be over.. This is a big palnet .. and it is come together on the internet in milliseconds ... you have your culture.. we have ours and they have theirs ... it's called ... "being different" according to "History" .. 'cultures" and "social norms" the last being what is acceptable by peers and nationality ... but we all have one thing in common.. we are all "earth bound" and no one culture is above the other when it comes down to it... we all breathe and live...on one planet...

ssshhhhhhhhhhh,.... everybodies sleeping .. peacefully... or passed out...

for what it's worth .. this thread seems to be taking a turn towards bringing another forum and it's Admin Team into the mix and making it a matter of "choose sides" I cannot see where it helps the membership of RWG, and it's relationship with other forums.. except to cause dissension within it's membership, and animosity towards it's neighbors for what ever "administrative Policies" they choose.. should be left up to that forum and it's decision makers.. I'm not referring to what is right or wrong or factual ..what is documented or conjecture.. This discussion bringing in RG in such a provocative way is not right.. even if it makes it's point.. I think each forum should be autonomous in how it conducts it's "decisions" on the Admin level.. Peace... R

Ray .. send your neighbor to the new Member raffle thread...

Welcome pauluk ... pau means "finished" and you are just arriving.. so as Stephane points out.. hit the New Member raffle.. cause you are the newest today.. and therefore the most important !!! Thought for the Day: .. Just for today.... I will buy only one watch........maybe Aloha~Cheers Lani

MSM has done the job for my shoulders.. a Nuerosugen at the gym advised that the body needs 20,000 mgs daily and as we grow older our body produces less so I started taking 15 to 20 thou mgms a day and within a month my shoulders were back to feeling great !! Glucoisamine and Chondrotin never really helped.. as every person is different.. my knees are ravaged .. hardly any cartilage left .. ligaments torn in the past.. when my dad found ... Trigosamine .. on the internet.. the added enzyme is ...HYALURONATE13..it's a building block" for "joint fluids"..this particular Acid is mainly for shoulders.. but it seems that it affects people differently .... as my knees feel better with it.. also since it affects the knees for me.. my IT band along the outside of the quads feel more elastic..the IT band affects the muscles in your legs and glutes ergo your back..... but I still use a hard foam roller to stretch my IT band.. and my hamstrings and glutes affect my lumbar also.. when they are tight my lower back experiences pain... so alot of stretching in these areas helps tremendously.. I use the yoga stretches for the glutes and IT also.. calves..all affect the lower back.. although doctors told me long ago that the heavy squating would produce arthritis.. oh well .. it's the price we pay.. Pain is inevitable .. but pre and post stretching especially if your sitting for extended times helps more than ibuprophen..your hams and glutes tighten up significantly if your training and the next day you are in the sitting position for your work..

Obviously my statements are going "Over Your Head" So it seems senseless to beat a dead horse..because for the third and last time.. my post was a side bar to the "pricing fix" issue.. try looking to the message instead of the messenger

my heart bleeds.... if you read my post it had nothing to do with Andrew or Joshua... so much for your comprehension !! Andrew and Joshua being banned from RWI and the Admin's reasoning is not for me to comment on ... either way.. in other words it is not "my business".. not knowing the full details "first hand" and with more than just reading posts.. I will not formulate any conclusion on "any party" . And whose to call your post a "literary work of high intelligence",.. are you claiming this for yourself ??... you seem to be telling us exactly how things are going down... what you said happened,.. like it's "point of FACT" can you show any insight into how you garnered this brilliant piece of intelligence.. Humint ?? what ?? Do you have any "real Insight" into how Asian "organizations" work..?? the Hierarchy involved.. do you have any "on the job" experience... How does the Top of the food chain work ?? have you seen it in action ?? How do middle lieutenants carry out their orders to protect the Top Man ?? Who do they send as "messengers" the Boss ?? Who put themselves in front of the CEO (to use a corporate term) .. and has a vow of silence ... and "has to" "by" rank take the heat if anything should happen ?? If you can answer these questions with "experienced " hands on knowledge... then you have just jeopardized your "theory" of what "went down" In my post were statements to "try" and get you to "think outside the box" not dwell on .. what "seems" to be the obvious... sorry I failed miserably.. Car dealerships was an "analogy" (get it?) Or would you like me to use more dramatic poses.... The "Cartel" Columbia.. back in the day... was "the Cartel" to coin the phrase.... the dealers were just the middle of the food chain ... and I'm not talking of the street dealers here in the US.. Dealers higher in the food chain carried satellite cell phones before they were inexpensive and widely used.. with a direct link to "the man" ... they moved merchandise... that's all they did.. The upper echelon dealers took their marching orders from whom??? and if they were to expose the men in power what would you think would become of them ??? To expose any "Power" would be to commit suicide.... the "Makers" or 'factories" as you call them.. may ask all the dealers ... get me a XXXXXX that could stand for a limited edition watch.. all dealers are searching for the piece... one will get it .. but all will share in it's sales .. and whom do you think Say's to sell it at a certain price ?? THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!!! You may come across an item someday that was procured outside China for a dealer to give to the maker.. If you were a "factory dealer" and a "secondary dealer" ... bought a new release off of someone... and the "control" told you to talk to him.... about selling under bid... think... think..... although the secondary dealer was giving you a great price .. as the factory would you be happy.. since you are including in "your" price.. exchange for defect... lost Customs .. etc. .. This is a "business" the Makers are running, not the dealers... the dealers move the merchandise .. like any commodity it has parameters...... That is what I was "trying" to illustrate..... I was not "defending" So do not "twist" my words for your so called intelligence... this was to illustrate ... organizational hierarchy practice.. or the "factions" involve in a illicit product... THINK... THINK ... THINK... that's all I was trying to put fourth !!!!!!!!!!!!... in Regards to Andrew .. what's done is done... I am not here to hash and rehash old news... you will think what you think.. but I was attempting to offer "More Food for thought" .. and now I'm trying to "Draw a picture" for your literary Greatness !!! Lani

I am not posting in defense nor commenting on the RWI synopsis ... but c9 you have come to this froum 3 months ago that not being the point .. but you post such ludicris statements .. like everyone is dealing in back street alley's you're testamony is not based on a single "shred" of evidence or "Proof" ... but your... "I'll tell you". line is ignorant to the point of being comical.. Is this just so you can join the mix ?? Go ahead and buy outside all the forums dealers and see how far you get with decent reps ... How many reps of awaited genuines have you purchased? if you have been buying for a year or 2 .. that time frame would give you a good idea of how things operate... how many parts have you sourced from dealers ?? another gauge into the rep business world "factory dealers" are those whom commission the factories or "maker" to replicate a genuine piece .... the dealers that procure the rep has done so from his own pocket .... the maker disassembles the genuine,.. for replication.. The factory or Maker that is commissioned has a quota for the dealers to sell .. and the Factory makers set the price.. ever been into a Staturn Car Dealership.... there is no Bartering.. no one dealer can give you a better price than what you see on the tag at your first stop.. the prices are set across the board .. the same at every dealership .. they could vary on where you live.. to adjust for fishing.. The Saturn Car Dealers are under the factories say so.... a Dealer that breaks the ranks has to answer to someone.... What if the Factory set a price and you were not following directions... would they send a factory representative??? of course they would.. this factory representative may be the one that bought the genuine for the factory What amazes me is VERY VERY FEW MEMBERS SEE that the dealers are not the ultimate power here.. they are more like factory reps. The MAKERS (factories) HOLD THE POWER .. they tell the dealers how many have to be sold if they replicate a genuine.. You are giving way too much credit to the dealers .... and not enough to the makers .... This was all side bars and not about J&A .. but think of GZ as you would Detroit and the dealers as you would your local Chevy or Ford dealerships... The factory - Makers are the modern WarLords fo China .. not the dealers,.....the dealers are the conduit from the makers..

Welcome !!!!!!!!!!!!! You will find much .. much more here than just replical watches... this is RWG !!!!!!!!!!11 Please Join in Our New Member Raffle .. no cost to you and you may win a Panerai .. Good Luck in all you do.. Aloha~Cheers Lani

All differences have been.. REOLVED.. I will ship out all mags to chief but with parameters.. all mags will have username and shipping address included with each mag... if payment has not been made following chiefs guidelines the mags will not leave Hawaii and will be sent to the owner without AR.. I don't forsee this as happening though.. Legend and M reynolds Thank you guy's... I could use help in gathering all the usernames to their shipping address's,... I will post a list but the mags will be here probably early next week then we have 2 weeks or more to finish .. so let's enjoy the weekend and I will keep everyone posted.. the weekend is horrendous for me as far as work.. Sunday I am pretty burnt... after work .. I get off a little early and someone else covers for me so .. have a great weekend and we will continue with the "team" next week.. BTW.. check out the sign up sheet for the wrist competition.. pilot run next week, so .. get your subs ready to post ... we need participation.. members donate ... 100% of the entree fee goes to prizes.. not usage costs.. so this is just for plain old fashion ... FUN !!!!

Thank you Gentlemen ..... what I could use help with is gathering all the usernames.. I will post them and if someone could take control of this prtion of the group AR.. I need to address envelopes with the members username and real name and address .. I will include this with the mag so all chief has to do after the mags are ar'd is pop them into the little zip lock put them in the envelope and drop them in the mail So what I would need is a full list .. all the info .. anyway I will post Pm me if any are available for this thank you R

Hey Z the calendar got out a little late .. sorry buddy .. you should get it next week sometime R

Welcome to the wonderful Obsession .... please check out the New Member Raffle.. it's free and you may end up with a Panerai .. Live Strong And Wear Them Well Aloha~Cheers Lani

Damn... first CBR .. now Omni from the Island of Maui ... wowieeeeee ... you guy's are TOO MUKIN FUCH That was the shortest biggest 2 man fund raiser per mega bite .. I have eva witnessed ....

Your on .. nix the first .. concentrate on numba 2 Aloha .. "the Breathe of Life" R

Chief and I spoke on the phone a minute ago .. and agreed to work this out.. it was a misunderstanding ... as these things alway's are.. I apologize for any members being upset over this.... But thank you chief for allowing me to set things right... Instructions will be posted as to how we will do this.. and please they need to be followed to the T again I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused ALL. R

Tell me exactly what you want done.. I will get assistance ( volunteered) to facilitate your end .. we need to do this for the members.. so if that's OK.. R

Thank you.. The mags have to be sent out from each member seperately .. this is the challenge.. I will not recieve them until (hopefully Saturday) but realistically next week Monday or Tuesday.. The removal if all goes well .. will take 2 to 3 day's of soaking in the acetone.. en mass... if I use heat .. well there are only so many hours in a day and 15 - 18 are taken up by my business... not an excuse but I have a very bad cold but taking off from the workers running things is not an option.. so acetone is the likely way to go... then the mailing out of over 25 mags... Conus does not concern me that much .. it's EU members that is my concern... 7 to 10 day's..business day's .. EMS.. 30 usd a pop .. for me a little pricey.. so I would say .. members would have to messagge me thier addresses and usernames .. EU members give "proxy" to another member in Conus to mail them into Cali that would work... if approved..

As I said in the upper post .. the magnification depends on the height of the crystal .. that's why I realized that my 1680 vintage genuine crystal .. mag makes the font look so huge.. the crystal rides high.. I put the mag in question on a lower riding crystal and the effect was obvious not as much magnification... I put it on the 1680 crystal.. same match as the genuine in magnification.. I put it a number of times on the GMCIIc and it is a match with the mag on there now.. and as was discussed on another thread the rep mag is too thick around the edges.. but the "sample" mag that I got off the crystal from wholesale warehouse is much closer to the genuine.. Now I cannot see the seller sending me bogus crystals when I have his documented emails .. he went outside eBay which is a no no..... and I advised him that I would file a dispute if anything was amiss Now in hind sight it was not a good idea to post the "story" as it brought out a lot of conjecture and what if's as to the quality of the crystals I am waiting for.. I will still remove them for ALL .. I already bought the chemicals and containers with rubber seals as the acetone 100% pure is wicked to inhale.. MY concern is getting them out and members getting them to Chief in the allotted time frame.. I don't want more money as I feel responsible ... my intention was to assist in this mod.. I did get upset ... I admit that as "my part" in this episode .. my logic was .. why are people bringing this so called "not correct xx out now after I dumped 600 usd in the crystals.. as I said .. more than 20 signed up .. some late stragglers asked to be fit in.. after the thread was closed.. so total is 31 mags.. of which 3 or 4 would be for members who did not know .. or "spoilage" I was not going to ask for anyone to pony up anymore cash if their crystal was defective... I did not factor that cost into the price as a retailer would do for insurance..I just ordered and payed for 5 or 6 more ..just in case So if I have offended Chief tang .. You have my humble Apologies... for what ever reason.. I did this for the members and not for my watch as my mags are being Are now by you.. so I ask if you can see past our differences .... I take responsibility for the wrongs here... (real or perceived) and ask that you put personal issues aside and finish what we started ... that is my request , I have not a penny of profit to come out of this chief.. if we can do it for the members I would appreciate it.. Sincerely Randy ~ aka Lanikai

No .. if you recieved the message from chief things have changed I will have to mail each member individually their mags.. and then they will have to mail them ... themselves to chief... you can inquire if it can come from me .. but that would be his call not mine.. again.. all the mis info on mags .. the sample that I bought matched the same magnification on the GMTIIc as the one attached to it... read my post above as to the difference.. mags that are 2.5 could be misinterpreted to be lesser if they are applied to crystal that sit lower in the case even a tiny fraction of a mm could make a huge difference.. thus I put this mag through the hoops of trying it on different crystals of different heights .. and it is the same as the one currentloy on the GMTIIc .. You just don't realize how much time and enrergy it took to get this... if it will take more on my part .,. then so be it..

Dizzy, one thing you should know about these mags.. not all will be appear to be 2.5... it depends on the height of the crystal .. the older vintage 1680 for example rides very high... ergo the date font looks huge.. this is because the mag is farther away from the font ... if you put a 2.5 on a crystal that is set low to the dial it will not be as magnified .. I have tried this with the mag in question on various crystals .. and it matches perfectly with the mag on the GMTIIc .. but remember this is a rep mag.. but they got the specs from the genuine.. that is why i summized that it was correct.. the mag you had may have very well been 2.5 but if you used it on a crystal that sat low to the dial then it would not magnify as well as one even a fraction of a mm higher...it makes a huge difference .... how the crystal is set..