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Nice score, congratulations!

@Automatico, I'd love to see some pics of your 1016 if you have some. I've had one of these in the pipeline for about a year, but my dial and hands don't match so I haven't started wearing it yet. I can't decide whether I ought to have them both re-lumed or wheather I should just get a new set that matches.

@Steve-Roling-who used to sell many cases on ebay is a very reliable source for these. I don't have his contact info on my laptop, but I'll send you a PM later once I can get on my home pc where I have his email address stored. As SlickDick mentioned, Stilty, a member on the board has movement adapter rings that will simplify your build significantly. There are lots of folks on the board that will help along the way. The Explorer is probably the simplest of the frankens to build and a handsome piece. I wear mine nearly every day.

Nice work Freddy!

And looking mighty fine! Nice score. Doesn't look like that has seen much wear in the past.

@Freddy, thanks for the word of caution. @Fakey, these are sized to accept genuine movement similar to a Phong case, just around $900 cheaper Not trying to offer any endorsement, just sharing the find for folks who may want a cheaper option than Phong or NDT for a decent looking case that will take a genuine movement. I've always thought that Phong and NDT were way overpriced for similar parts. Looks like the lugs holes are sized to take genuine spring bars and the crown guards look pretty good too. The other option in this price range is MBW and we all know the pitfalls associated with those.

Looks like Yukiwatch has started carrying some aftermarket cases along with their dials. The price looks pretty damn good compared to NDT or Phong. It's nice to see that someone has these parts priced realistically, as Phong and NDT are way too high. I'm glad to see that they have a little competition. Here's the link to the page with the cases http://www.yukiwatch.com/watch_parts.html

Absolutely gorgeous!

Freddy, best of luck to you on your search. What you've got so far is looking good. Patience and persistence will prevail. It took me over four years to cobble together my 1675. The genuine case came first, then a bad re-dial, then aftermarket hands, then an aftermarket bezel assbly and finally a genuine 1565 GMT movement. After four years of collecting parts when I found them at the right price I ended up with a decent gmt with only about $1450 invested. The dial and hands do suck, but will get replaced one of these days. P.S. Sorry for hijacking your thread.

I think I'd remove the date ring and related date parts and drop the 3035 in to a 16200 case with a genuine Explorer I dial, remove the cyclops and you'd have a good looking, almost genuine Explorer I 14270. The genuine cases are plentiful, pretty cheap and parts are easy to find. With the rep cases there are too many variables to suit me. Just my opinion of course.

Diesel, sorry to hear about the postal service hosing you for the taxes and fees, but consider it cheap insurance against future water damage. I have tested a couple of sets of DW pushers in the water-proof tester and they all leaked like a sieve under pressure. I've never seen so many bubbles coming out of one watch. The pushers, taxes and fees are probably far cheaper than a new movement and dial.

Sorry to hear your mis-fortune on this deal. Seeing it for sale for a huge price only adds insult to injury.

Nice work! Wear it well.

@Freddy, I copied and pasted the movement parts list from the Borel website for the 1036 GMT below for your reference. It looks like they may have some of the parts your looking for. WATCH MATERIAL PARTS LIST ROL 1036 GMT AUTOMATIC SWEEP SECOND 12 1/2L 80/130/20 BM 1036 DESCRIPTION ALTERNATE # PRICE (1) PRICE (3) Add to Order 24 HOUR WHEEL 10.40 8.70 Add to Order AUTO BRIDGE, JEWELED A/2728 Unavailable AUTO BRIDGE, W/BUSHING A/2729 Discontinued AUTO SOLE JEWELED 7005/ROL 1030 25.00 19.60 Add to Order AUTO SOLE W/BUSHING 7006/ROL 1030 25.00 19.60 Add to Order BALANCE COMPLETE 721/1020 Discontinued BARREL 182/465 Discontinued BARREL ARBOR 195/590 Discontinued BUSHING, UPPER INTER WHEEL #2 7029/ROL 1030 10.40 8.70 Add to Order CALENDAR RING 7089/ROL 1036 37.20 31.30 Add to Order CALENDAR RING 37.20 31.30 Add to Order CALENDAR WHEEL 7102/ROL 1036GM 20.50 16.70 Add to Order CALENDAR YOKE 7086/ROL 1065 9.20 7.60 Add to Order CALENDAR YOKE SPRING A/3454 Discontinued CANNON PINION, SS HT 3.05 7062/ROL 1035 13.00 11.00 Add to Order CENTER WHEEL, SS 7061/ROL 1035 30.40 24.50 Add to Order CLICK 425/415 Discontinued CLUTCH LEVER 6963/ROL 1030 9.20 7.60 Add to Order CLUTCH LEVER SPRING 440/500 Unavailable CLUTCH WHEEL, 407/569 Unavailable CROWN WHEEL 420/536 Discontinued CROWN WHEEL RING 6951/ROL 1030 3.60 2.20 Add to Order CROWN WHEEL SEAT M/743 Unavailable DATE DISC A/3457 Discontinued DATE JUMPER 16.00 13.60 Add to Order DRIVER A/2741 Unavailable ESCAPE WHEEL, C/C 6917/ROL 1030 22.80 18.00 Add to Order ESCAPE WHEEL, C/S 704/182 Discontinued FOURTH WHEEL, REGULAR 220/371 Discontinued HOUR WHEEL, DOUBLE TOOTH *7100 12.10 10.30 Add to Order INTERMEDIATE WHEEL #1 A/2745 Unavailable INTERMEDIATE WHEEL #2 A/2748 Discontinued JEWEL, LOWER BALANCE CAP 330/173 Discontinued - Use 6944/ROL 1030 JEWEL, UPPER INT WHEEL #1 7022/ROL 1030 11.60 9.70 Add to Order JEWEL, UPPER INTER WHEEL #2 7027/ROL 1030 11.60 9.70 Add to Order JEWEL, UPPER REVERSER WHEEL 7019/ROL 1030 11.60 9.70 Add to Order MAINSPRING 1.20-.105-320 10 GR 2936-X 11.95 10.95 Add to Order MINUTE WHEEL 6966/ROL 1030 13.00 11.00 Add to Order OSCILLATING WEIGHT BEARING A/2733 Discontinued PALLET 710/626 Discontinued PALLET ARBOR 72S/72P Discontinued PALLET ARBOR USE 72S/72P 6923/ROL 1030 8.10 6.40 Add to Order RATCHET WHEEL 415/552 Unavailable REGULATOR, BREGUET 6943/ROL 1030 16.00 13.60 Add to Order REVERSER WHEEL (MTD) A/2742 Unavailable ROLLER 12.50 10.50 Add to Order ROTOR AXLE A/2736 Unavailable ROTOR BEAR W/JEWEL A/2751 Unavailable ROTOR BOLT A/2738 Unavailable ROTOR BOLT (GIB) A/1406 Discontinued ROTOR BOLT AXLE A/2740 Discontinued ROTOR WEIGHT A/2735 Unavailable SCREW, AUTO BRIDGE LONG HEAD 7002/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, AUTO BRIDGE SHORT HEAD 7003/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, AUTO SOLE 7007/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, BALANCE BRIDGE 6930/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, BARREL BRIDGE 6970/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, CALENDAR WHEEL 5.60 4.10 Add to Order SCREW, CALENDAR WHEEL A/4230 Discontinued SCREW, CALENDAR YOKE SPRING 7088/ROL 1065 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, CASE CLAMP A/3459 Discontinued SCREW, CASE SPECIAL 6973/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, CLICK 5425/352 Unavailable SCREW, CROWN WHEEL 6953/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, DATE JUMPER 7085/ROL 1065 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, DIAL SIDE 6972/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, OSCILLATING WGT BEARING 7009/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, PALLET BRIDGE 7845/ROL 1570 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, RATCHET WHEEL 2871/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, ROTOR BOLT 7014/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, SET BRIDGE 6962/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SCREW, SET LEVER 5443/700 Discontinued SCREW, STUD 5.10 3.60 Add to Order SCREW, SWEEP SECOND SPRING 6916/ROL 1030 5.70 4.20 Add to Order SET BRIDGE 6961/ROL 1030 11.60 9.70 Add to Order SET LEVER 443/691 Discontinued SET WHEEL 6965/ROL 1030 3.60 2.20 Add to Order SPRING, CLICK 6958/ROL 1030 6.70 5.10 Add to Order STAFF, KIF 5.75 4.50 Add to Order STAFF, USE 100/1568 6940/ROL 1030 7.20 5.60 Add to Order STEM, TAP 10 401/270 Discontinued - Use 401/464 STEM, TAP 10 J-7869/ROL 1530 3.95 2.75 Add to Order STEM, TAP 10 J-7869 3.95 2.75 Add to Order STEM, TAP 8 7869/1-ROL 3.95 2.75 Add to Order SWEEP SECOND FRICTION SPRING 471/135 Discontinued SWEEP SECOND PINION 275/259 Unavailable SWEEP SECOND WHEEL 283/153 Discontinued THIRD WHEEL, LONG PIVOT 214/153 Discontinued WIND UP WHEEL A/2737 Discontinued WINDING PINION 410/670 Unavailable

Cool. It's a great looking piece. Please share some pics when you finish the lug holes and dial.

Nice work! Did you have a bezel for the 1016 or did you modify the bezel from the 16200?

Wow that's gorgeous. I too love the 5513 with the metal indices. Nice work!

Nice score Freddy! Very nice.

Stilty that's a fine looking project you've got brewing there. I'm looking forward to seeing that pair when you get around to finishing them up.

Thanks for the positive comments guys. Sometimes you get lucky when franken-building and everything fits without raising your blood pressure!

I hate to get off topic, but somebody may have interest in doing a similar, but simpler project. As Stilty mentioned the eta 2000 is a great choice to replace a 2135 or 2035 movement. I assembled a watch for my wife with a 6718 case with an eta 2000 movement. This is a very straightforward project without the hassles of spacers, date disc overlays, date alignment or other tedious details. The movement fits nearly perfectly (diameter) and the stem lines up perfectly. Dial feet were removed and dial was installed with adhesive dots. For a simple watch thats nice looking this franken is hard to beat. Here's a couple of pics (hand alignment has since been fixed).

The hands will clear the dial but just barely. It is noticeable if you look carefully. Sorry I don't have a pic of the dial with the hands installed, I decided to use the movement in a franken-explorer instead and removed the hands and dial.

I was going to install a 1520 in an MBW 5513 case and it didn't fit correctly. You either have to have the date ring as on a 1570 date movement or use a spacer under the dial. Kinda sucks, but way cheaper than a vietnamese case.

I love my Franken Explorer and wear it almost every day. It looks good with a suit, jeans, shorts pretty much anything. Kind of like a sport datejust.