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No Precious Time We talk about the Supreme Sub.

so I talked to Chris about the Crystal problem. I thought by my first review the Crystal gasket where broken. Now we know it was not. Chris told me he has also PT's Sub and he tried two mix the Parts from both watches. The result was that the Crystal include gasket from Pt fits the Euro. The same works with the retaining Ring from PT and also the one from the Euro on PT's Sub. So I think the Case design is the same only the Crystal and gaskets are different. I had also no problems to install a gen Insert it snaps in easily. Maybe there are small differences from Case to Case from factory? Who knows. As I modded WGenzos WM9 he send me also an after market Crystalgasket and it don't fit the Case so I decided to take the rep gasket for the gen Crystal. also a gen Bezel won't fit without a little work on the WM9 so there are also some small issues.

Yes Randy, I prefer excellent taste

As I told in the past a Gen is Gen its a perefect watch. Especially Rolexes are a good investment and they grow up in price every year. If they are worth the money? I really don't know, but best thing is if you ever invest In a gen one, you don't loose your money in the future buy the way fantastic Picture.

No its not Gen. There are a lot of these ones on the Market. Dial is a reprint on these, also the Case is aftermarket. They come with Tudor signed Eta but they are also not gen. You could get them cheap in the past in Thailand

@ Ubi something went wrong here same kitchen desk, we drive Audi and love the same watches?!? Thanks Guys, I have a gen Crystal on the way now,hope it has the edged Crown on it. But for now it's really damn close to gen expect the Bracelet.

Now here are some better Pics of my new Submariner Base Case is the V4 Euromariner Case with no Lugholes I installed a Eta 2836-2 Movement on this,the Dial is a Noobmariner Dial Datewheel is a gen 3135 Insert is also Gen Glass is a genereic from the Bay The Cg's are reshaped in length and to gen dimensions Noob Bracelet Will replace the Tube and Crown to Gen in the future but must source the Parts.. I can't tell any differences about the Rehaut and Crystal anymore Also the Crown placement is not bad for an Eta based Case Biggest Improvement for me is the nice Date and the right magnification on this one Here now some better Pics :rolleyes:

Thanks Taka, yes its a nice Case needs some Mods but this is also on WM9. As I have heard the no engraved WM9 is out of production now. Will post some better pics of mine tomorrow

So, I discussed this with Chris but this is an issue of the Glass I think. Chris has also PT's new Sub which is the same like WM9 and all Parts fit the Euro also the Parts from Euro to PT's Sub. I replaced the Crystal on my V4 Euro with a generic one and also installed a Gen Insert with no problem. So I think its not necessary to sand down the retaining Ring. Maybe there are some differences in the production time by time who knows. I thought by my Review the first time that the Crystal Gasket is broken in two pieces. Now I know it is not. The Crystals on the Euro has a too visible edged Crown I think, so replaceing with a generic one is the best solution. Chris will do it in the future I think.

Seems you all had a lot of fun. Great Pics and some nice watches. Maybe in the future we can meet all together. Thanks for sharing

Thanks mate, yes not really an easy job. I must sand down a lot of the gen Datwheel that it rotates free. After some time I get it right. I want a perfect Date on this one and now it looks like gen. Have to thank the member who sold me the Datewheel

Quality of the Case is really good. Only the engravings between the Lugs are a bit blurry. But this can be solved in the future I think.

Yes, only the engravings are a bit blurry

Its Chris new modern Case Build this one today..... Eta powered, Noob Dial, Gen 3135 Datewheel,Gen Insert, Generic Crystal Noob Bracelet and modded CG's

What do you think ?

Small Update, how the Lughole case looks with installed Parts Enjoy This was only a Test if all will fit,and you see a gen bracelet fits fine

Yes it was a Gen one also Springbars and Endlinks.

I talked to Chris a lot of times in the last month about the Cases. Chris told the Factory to drill the Lugholes to 1,2mm but they drilled them like on the Vintage MBK's. Not a fault of Chris now but this was the first batch. I drilled them out to right specs and tried to fit a 93150 Bracelet, Springbars and 501B Endlinks and they fit the Case perfect I will send it back to Chris as a sample for the factory. But if they can't do it, I think we can live with it. We drill the Vintage Cases also everytime. I will post some Pics of it next time.

So a lot of member asked for a good Case with gen Bezel Assembly and no engraved Rehaut (like WM9) and for a Case with Lugholes. The Lughole Version is for some older Models. It was made from Ref 16800 -16610. There are Modells with 93150 Bracelets and some with 93250 Bracelet and SEL. Chris was so kind and talked to the Factory to build this Cases for the community here. Most of the Members don't like the engraved Rehaut Version so now we have it with no engraved Rehaut, thats fantastic in my Opinion. The Case with no Lugholes is a F-Series, Lughole one is A-Series wich is correct for both. I have two Samples of both Cases here and they look great. Now we can build some neovintage Rolexes like we ever want in the Past. I must thank Chris that he has done it for us. Never seen a dealer who take Care of his customers and made things possible by request. Now Chris is trying to change the Crystal to a generic one from Clarks. So we have the right Crystal with no edged Crown and Gasket like Gen which is a fantastic improvement for the Lughole Case.

I had no problem to install a gen Insert?!? maybe there are some differences in shape from factory?!?

6000 USD for a SS Sub its about 4340 Euro. So the Sub 160 Euro cheaper in the US.

The datewindow looks a bit crooked in my opinion

I had this problem thousand times in the past. Put a drop oil on the threads of the Tube. Then screw it in,you need some force to do it but it works. After that you can clean the threads and then it works fine

Gen no doubt

I think it looks good I have ordered also a 19mm folded one for a DW. Replace the Clasp on it. The idea is good I think Maybe there is a option to stamp the Endlink with the right number.