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If you want to research the past changes/updates, you can look up WM9 website

For the previous versions WM9 quality being similar to (or worse than) the cheaper China reps in past, they were alleged being scammers as they were too expensive. Then with the recent updated ones, some brave forum members decided to test water and bought themselves WM9 watches. One of them being BK. Apparently, the new WM9 aren't as bad as the general rep forum community thought, and price-justification perception has thus changed. Today, it's proven (by many different forum members) to be one of the best reps around. Do note that the rep market moves fast. When there is a demand, there is always a compelling supply. What you read written years ago may not apply today.

WM9 (watchmaker9.tv) updates the versions of each model from time to time. If you're looking the TT sub, are you referring to a black or blue dial/bezel version? WM9 just updated a new version of the blue dial/bezel 16613 this year (2009) while the black dial/bezel was last updated in 2006. Perhaps the comments you saw from a couple years back were of the older versions? Recent versions updated these two years 2008-2009 had most of the previous flaws corrected. Talk to bk about it. He can help you clarify all these queries you have and get you what you want.

Yupz I got one. It's stunning!!! Sorry don't have a pic for ya tho

This project reminds me of the Project X 16610LV PXD SS1: http://www.projectxdesigns.com/details2_PXDSS1.html

'Oversize case' isn't referring to larger case size. The new 'oversize cased' subs are still 40mm like the older ones, with wider lugs and CG. Here's the dimension of YG versions 16618 and the new 116618/116619: My impression of the upcoming 'oversize cased' steel sub (speculated as 116610LN) is like this: See the difference? The 43mm cased is actually the new DSSD:

That's a whole load of info here. Thanks guys. ... And this tube/crown height issue cannot be rectified by thickness of movement spacer ring? That's my question. Does MBW 1665 take gen 1570 like Yuki/NDT? ... and here's an answer, but still unclear. What kind of modification/manipulation needed to fit 1570-to-MBW or ETA-to-Yuki/NDT? Will a taller/shorter movement spacer ring help? So Zigmeister did not modify/manipulate the case? It was a perfect fit? Now we're getting warmer here... Too high... too low... 'No MBW' includes the 1665? If so, we're back to square one. Yikes! You're modifying gen movements to fit rep cases? If I have the gen 1575, I'd keep it for Yuki/NDT... You're a brave man, freddy... I've learnt a whole lot... but still not exactly found my answer. So MBW spacer ring may not help fitting ETA into a Yuki/NDT... how about a modified (thinner? thicker?) spacer ring? If this still doesn't help, I'm now confused by 'Yuki/NDT cases are the best'. Best how? For gen movements only? *scratches huge forehead*

Thanks for your advices. No doubt Yukiwatch and NDT are the best... but how do I fit an ETA into a Yuki/NDT 1665 case? Can I use the spacer ring from MBW? I was trying to do the math... Yuki/NDT accepts only gen 1570 If MBW can accept gen 1570, then MBW spacer ring should fit Yuki/NDT If Yuki/NDT accepts MBW spacer ring, then ETA should be able to fit in Yuki/NDT Please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere in the equation...

This is for planning the next upgrade available for 1665. Hope to learn more from experts... Does MBW 1665 take gen 1570 movements like Yuki/NDTrading? Does MBW spacer ring fit Yuki/NDTrading? Are the caseback interchangeable between MBW/Yuki/NDTrading? Which case set would you recommend? Thanks in advance for your guidance.

If you find the paint on the caseback too stubborn to be removed, try using duct tapes to lift the paints off after you have rinsed the caseback in paint removers for a while. It works wonders for mine.

... or 580 end-links

The 16600 SD should have a 93160 bracelet, so there's only '93160' engraved on the bracelet. No engraving on the SEL.

Which Eurotimez Rolex v5?? *confused*

Things you should know about this oversized cased sub: This oversized cased sub rep is an impression of one that is not yet released by R*lex. It's supposedly the upcoming steel 116610LN with ceramic bezel speculated to be released in 2010. The oversized case is based on the already released gold versions with blue dial + blue ceramic bezel (YG version 116618LB and WG version 116619LB), and the TT with ceramic bezel (black face + black bezel 116613LN) and (blue face + blue bezel 116613LB). Unless you do not mind risking being called out for having one that is not yet released by R*lex, you may not want this oversized cased sub.

That Milsub has too thick a bezel. That's a 1665 case construct. A true milsub should have 5513 case construct with thinner bezel.

I agree with hambone... to each his/her own. I have seen lotsa Rolex and Breitlings worn loose as well... even men.

Did that lady look like this?

Thanks man I'm really happy with it. Yes I heard the 036 build is much better. I would have gotten it if not for the brown dial. I'm a strictly black dial only person. Anyway, your work on the relume is fantastic! I posted some pics of it here: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=60609

Wow! Just in time to get mine from you then, T For such a popular model, how can they stop producing it? I thought we're generating more than enough demand for them to continue with the supply? Are they trying to replicate even the 1500 pc only? ... I'm just glad I got mine. So glad... Phew!~

One of my export executive was asked to prepare reports to bring when we travel for a business trip. On the day we embarked, I checked with her if she had done the reports. She replied that she had, and she had transferred the files from her desktop to a USB memory stick. Bravo for the convenience of a USB memory stick! During the meeting with our foreign agent, we needed the data. We plugged the memory stick into my laptop and all I found were nicely organized folders for each related matter... with the small white box and up turning blue arrow on the bottom left on each and every of the folder icon... with the folder names "Shortcut to..." I nearly cried.

Thanks, guys. I will try to take better pics and post the trinity when the third one is done @ssabripo: NICE Will look forward to seeing yours... @babola: You mean the dial text "Luminor Marina" and "Panerai" should be slightly off-white? @Seadweller4000: Thanks I'm basically a black-only on the straps. And after trying on all the black straps I have, this one seems to fit with the satin brushed finish and the darker color of the case. I like this set up too.

After a long 2 months wait with many bouts of excitement and disappointment, yet another of my dream PAM-trinity is finally done. My happiness is beyond what I expected. Thought I should share this happiness here - TWP modded 177H; 'Plume' relumed - Vaccum Ti Palp+CG mod - Titanium buckle from Davidsen - Black calf stitchless from Savage

Easy, guys... You're draggin' this guy deep into the PAM pit Happy birthday, Ssabripo Just a thought of your PAM search... have you owned a rep of this 45mm watch before? Are you certain that you will love the sheer size of this watch? As far as I know, watch enthusiasts either love it or hate it. If you think this watch is the one for you, then my next thought for you is... are you a perfectionist? Most of us started here thinking we'd be happy getting a DSN for the first PAM, but many of us ended up wanting more. DSN offers the best noob PAMs (yes, I think they're fit for noobs though they're not cheap...) but you can hardly mod a DSN any further than what it is. Reason being DSN watches do not accept other rep or gen parts available in the bigger non-DSN market. So if you don't think you'd be picky... then DSN is the right choice.

High valued or not... I still dislike the gawdy gold hands. I think I'd stick with the Luminors

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