TeeJay

Did anyone catch what Brad Pitt wore in Oceans 13? Looked like a sub on his right hand?

I believe he wore a gold Yachtmaster II...

Still the 45mm Planet Ocean

As I can't edit my post to add...

Here's the watch as advertized by Silix...

http://www.watchsilix.com/product.asp?id=812

As people will see, the bracelet clearly has a 'side button' deployant, similar to on an SMP. The bracelet on my watch featured a clasp which operated by a rectangular side button (as seen on Alpha Watches) and had markings reading Omega Seamastei Professional. It also cost me 81 Eur, despite the site advertizing it for 49 Eur. While I am sure Jay will indeed resolve the issues, I can't help but feel that I've been well and truly played for a chump.

I received an Omega Speedmaster X-33 today from Silix which was most definitley not QCd. It has 3 flaws, which, while not glaring to the casual observer, are glaringly obvious to anyone actually scrutinizing the watch (which one would assume QC involves)

1. Only the minute hand is lumed.

2. One of the faux 'screws' in the back of the case is missing. Doesn't bother me that they're not functional, but is does bug me that one is missing.

3. Most serious flaw. The second hand 'sticks' when it is going round. It doesn't do it in the same space every rotation, nor does it necessarily stick on every rotation. But, it does stick incredibly frequently. Sometimes only for a second, sometimes for as long as 10 seconds. As a result, the analogue section looses a considerable amount of time.

How anyone could miss those issues while inspecting the watch, I fail to see... I've emailed to discuss the issues, and hopefully we'll be able to come to a resolution. Other than those flaws, the watch is nice, and perfect for the purpose I intended it. While I would openly admit it did not cost 'Super Rep' prices, it cost considereably more than 'Canal St' watches, so I expected it's standard to be above 'Canal St' quality.

Aesthetically, the missing 3 markers don't bother me. From an accuracy point of view, it is a huge glaring 'tell', and just damn sloppy on the part of the factories. I consider myself extrememly lucky that the SMP I got from A.N Other Dealer, did have the 3 marker, particularly when the Cartel Dealers seem to only be selling ones without the marker...

The rep of the 2220.50 is also missing the 3 marker, and I am going to order one tomorrow, simply because I want to have the two 'Casino Royale' watches, and, as I won't actually be wearing the watch (I prefer the appearance of the 2531.80 to the 2220.50) the missing 3 marker won't be an issue, although, I would feel conspicuous about it if I was to wear the watch in public...

With regards to swapping for a gen dial, it would theoretically be possible, but, the thing you must ensure, is that the date window is not further to the right to compensate for the missing 3 marker. That's something you'd only be able to judge visually, so I'd suggest going to an AD with the watch in your pocket. Have a very good look at the dial just before you go in, then leave the watch in your pocket, ask to see the gen watch, and have a very good look at that dial. Whatever you do, don't let the ADs catch sight of the rep, as that is just asking for an awkward situation, and possible ridicule... If the dials would indeed appear compatible, then swapping them over is extremely easy.

Best of luck

Something I've read, is when re-cementing lume/marker back onto a dial, it is best to use a clear two-part epoxy. Cyanoacrylate (aka superglue) might dry more quickly, but, while curing, it can release fumes which can fog the inside of the crystal. Best of luck with the repair project

I have the same series of PO. It's my favorite watch and I hardly ever take it off. The bad thing is that after you get used to the size and weight, most other watches feel like ladies models. I've had mine several months with no problems and I've only had to adjust the time once so I guess it's pretty darn accurate. The only flaw (other that the feet on the Omega logo) is that only about half of the tip of the second hand is painted, but it's barely noticed.

That is so true. I put my Submariner next to the Planet Ocean, and it did indeed look like a lady's watch by comparison. I also went into the local AD and tried on the SMP 2554.50. It looked ridiculously small, so I think it's safe to say I won't be buying myself one of those (even if it's just as a non-wearer in the collection) The 42mm Planet Ocean doesn't look so bad, nor did my 2531.80 SMP (waiting for that to be returned before I can completely compare them) but, both those watches are larger than a Submariner... To use in 'int0rw3b' slogan: 45mm FTW

Model: Planet Ocean (Asian mvmnt) Possibly 4th gen

Size: 45mm

Seller: 'Other'

Rain: Has not been a problem

Shower: Untested as yet...

Pool/Ocean 3 meter/10 feet: Untested as yet.

I was told by my dealer that the watch would likely be shower proof, but probably wouldn't stand up to bathing or swimming. As a result, once I get my 2531.80 SMP back, I will be taking the Planet Ocean in for waterproofing and regulation. By coincidence, I accidentally forgot to take the watch off when getting in a hot bath earlier (think Japanese Hot Spring standard), pulled my arm out and immediately removed the watch. No hint of fogging or condensation, so I either a) caught it in time, or b ) it has been better waterproofed than the dealer originally thought. Only time will tell once my watchsmith gets his hands on it...

Apart from trying on a Panerai, this has been on my wrist since it arrived just over a week ago

That's the 20mm lug version, isn't it?

Yes. I had planned to get a 22mm strap from Silix, but when the watch arrived and only had 20mm lugs, I wasn't going to start filing them larger just to fit the strap (as the lug holes would also likely need drilling deeper to compensate)

Looks like the asian 45mm with 20mm lugs that Andrew sells/sold. It came out around April 2006.

I have one.

Ahh, thanks Have you ever planned to modify yours at all, or are you leaving it as it was out of the box?

I've finally been able to get some decent pics of my 45mm Planet Ocean, and wondered if anyone could identify what 'gen' it is? I know there are several flaws, and they don't bother me, I know it's not a UPO, but was just curious...

I am saving up for a new daily beater I now have saved up

Well I just got a message saying the replacement is already on the way via EMS. I chose the Steve McQueen 1655 Explorer. I'll never wear it I'm sure, I just like the looks of it. I had an asian movement 1655 that I practiced disassembly and mods on. The more I looked at it, the more I liked it.

So the hunt continues. About 3 of our collectors have the same 14060 pics listed on their websites. I'm gonna message them to see which 14060 they actually sell. If any still sell the model pictured, I may order one unless someone advises me of a better option for a nodate.

You beat me to it by 3 minutes That'll teach me to write long posts

A re-dial wouldn't help this watch. That's only one issue. The case still has no lugholes, the band is a modern style sel and the rehaut is way too conical.

If the rehaut's the main issue, not really much that can be done about that... lugholes can always be drilled, bracelets can always be swapped, as can the dials, but nothing you can do about the rehauts... Might it do as project watch or a 'yardwork' beater?

I would rather have a refund, but I don't see that happening. I just have to make up my mind on what rep to exchange this gem for.

Depending on what you have, how about trying something completely different? I'm thinking of getting a white VC Overseas in the near future as a dress watch. I know it'll just collect dust and hardly get worn, but I think it'd be a nice addition to the collection

I'm about to start likeing Omegas better again.

As much as I'm looking forward to making my two Rolex project watches, Omega are without a doubt my favorites. I now have five Omegas (of which only two actually work) with the sixth on order, and a seventh planned project. I have:

'Canal street quality' 2531.80 Project Watch (damaged movement)

42mm Planet Ocean black bezel on rubber (dead movement, will be donor for hands for planned project)

42mm Planet Ocean orange bezel on SS Bracelet (dead movement)

2531.80 SMP (Under repair... Movement now works, but watch is being waterproofed, should have it back by the end of the week)

45mm Planet Ocean black bezel on rubber (working fine, on my wrist as I type, but, when the SMP is returned, I will be taking it in for regulation and waterproofing)

SpeedMaster Professional X-33 (On order. Should arrive within the week, as dealer said they use express shipping)

Planned Project:

Aqua Terra with black dial. Plans to replace hands for 42mm Planet Ocean hands, and swap SS Bracelet for Croc strap.

I have been trying to get a "fair" quality nodate Sub. for months now and still I'm coming up dry. After much thought, I ordered a modern ETA 14060 rep. that looked "close enough" on the sellers webpage. The pics showed the case having lug holes, the correct hollow end link band and a nice 14060M dial. When I received it, it had no lug holes in the case, a modern sel band and western fonts for the "Oyster Perpetual". It's based on the rep models that have the movement sitting low in the case which sits the crown low to give a better rehaut. The rehaut is conical of course. I almost threw up when I saw it. The seller is telling me that it is correct, all of the new 14060s have no lug holes and sel band. Never the less I'm returning it because I would never wear such a hidious watch in public. The seller is telling me he'll give me an exchange, but I don't even know what I would want to exchange it for.

I'm hearing now that the vintage nodate may no longer be available. My main objectives are a decent appearing nodate Sub and it must have an oyster band. The only option I can think of is to get a 5517 (because it appears to have a nice dial and fonts) and swap the movement into a like vintage case with an oyster band.

Any ideas?

Have you actually returned it yet? If it was just a case of needing a different dial, I'd suggest contacting ClasicWatchParts and getting one of their dials (or even custom ordering the one you want) If I remember, they're $150 a pop... Having re-read your comment though, if the rehaut is unacceptable, then by all means send the watch back, and you should indeed 'name and shame' the 'collector', so others can take note when deciding who to buy from.

Best of luck with a solution

hello, i finally pulled the trigger on the seamaster planet ocean big size. i'll keep the dealer out of the equation for now as there is an issue with the watch. i was hesitating on buying this watch because of the feet on the omega ellipse logo. a day later the dealer sent me this picture ...

stating that they just solved this problem and that's what i would receive. well today the watch arrived and there is a couple of things that i could live with but was really looking forward to the correct logo, especially because i haven't seen it on this model yet. i have written him an e-mail and expect to hear a response within a day or two. anyway, since my new purchase of a lighting studio i decided to take a picture for you. has anyone else heard of them offering this watch with the correct logo recently? that's what i paid for but obviously didn't receive. hopefully the dealer will make good. i would appreciate the experts weighing in on the other flaws as i am a panerai man and simply don't know what to look for. all the best.

Sorry, but I've got a real mixed opinion about this...

Yes, it's utterly dishonest that the dealer said they would ship a watch with the correct logo but still ship one with an incorrect logo, and I would never defend a dealer who advertises or promises X, and delivers Y, but, and this is a Big But, are you forgetting that this is a replica? Other than another watch enthusiast, who in your everyday life is actually going to notice the logo as incorrect? Who would even know what the correct logo should be? Considering that people in the past have complained that the logos were not properly lined up (which is way more noticeable than which version of the logo is used, because the Human eye picks up miss-allignments way more than specific detail), it really is a very minor issue to worry about... Are you bothered that the watch itself is likely not on a Planet Ocean strap, but a Seamaster Strap? That's a way more noticeable 'tell' to the more well-informed observer than the shape of a 4mm sliver of metal seen from 4ft away...

As I said, the dealer clearly lied to you, so that's [censored] behaviour, and as others mentioned, you should definitely 'name and shame' them, afterall, we are all part of a community here with common goals and interests. By calling a dealer out, you protect others from falling foul of similar behaviour in the future. It doesn't really bother me if a dealer sells a Planet Ocean with an incorrect logo, as long as that is entirely what they advertised and promised to provide. As soon as they start misrepresenting their product, then I lose all patience with them entirely.

My Planet Ocean 45mm has the same flaws as the one you have shown (pearl, logo with feet) it also has a dial where the indices are fractionally too thin, and it is on a 20mm Seamaster strap. But. It has been on my wrist solidly since it arrived (with the exception of when I tried on a Panerai I ordered for my dad, but actually gave to my father in law, as I wanted to see what a Panerai would look like) The flaws simply don't bother me. If they did, I would order a gen dial and strap and start swapping parts over, but that's not going to happen, because the watch is 'good enough' as it is. Just to reiterate, I totally sympathise that you were given Y when you were promised X, I just don't think it's an issue worth getting yourself worked up over. As I said, these are replica watches, they are not going to be perfect. For perfection, one must either modify the watch with OEM parts, or, simply buy the genuine article to begin with...

Best of luck with getting the issue resolved

That should be 2554.50, BTW...

An update as my preferences have changed slightly in the past months (that long already )

Daily Beater - Omega Planet Ocean 45mm on rubber

Dress Watch - Vacheron Constantin Overseas (white dial)

Smart Casual - Omega Seamaster professional 2531.80 or Omega Speedmaster Professional X-33 on croc (depending on which aspect of 'smart/casual' is most appropriate :biggrin: )

Sporty - Omega Seamaster Professional 2554.80 on double ridge rubber strap

Vintage - Omega Seamaster 300 m

Morally, I wouldn't have any objections, afterall, I wouldn't be collecting rep watches if I did... However, I am not someone that really cares about brandnames or labels, and I tend to wear 'generic' clothing anyway as it's just as good as designer labels, but a fraction of the cost. Example, I bought a sweater in a UK store, called Burtons, for

The co-axial ??? AKA aqua terra??? It's the plain looking date-justy type. I am ordering the UPO, but wanted another watch as well. I thought the co-axial looked very clean and simple, but wasn't sure about flaws. I feared the see-through case would be a window to the rep world showing off the non OEM movement, so I seek advise and/or experience with this model. I am colorblind and rely on you guys when I read about dial colors and such being off shades. Any direction would be great. I read the reviews that by-tor and other members put together before I post these questions. Seriously, if by-tor wrote a review on a Swatch, we would all be digging in our trunks of years ago to sport the 80's timepieces once again!!!

Ahh, I think I know the one you mean. Very elegant, mature watch. Something to be worn with a business suit, not a 'sport watch' like the SMP. Depending on the dealer you go to, the flaws will vary, and depending upon which color combination you choose. If you were to go for the simple black dial, then that's about as good as you can get, but, some dealers sell the watch with a black datewheel with white lettering (correct) and some have it with a white datewheel with black lettering (incorrect) Personally, as much as the dark datewheel looks good on the Planet Oceans, I think the Aqua Terra actually looks better with the white datewheel, as it breaks up the dial, and also 'looks' more like someone might expect (if comparing to the Datejust) I'd be the first to admit, that's only a personal opinion, and it's a matter of personal tastes and how important accuracy to gen is for you. Was there a specific watch (from a specific dealer) you had in mind? I'd be happy to look at any images and review the colors for you

Which model Co-Axial Seamaster were you thinking of? As mentioned, the Planet Oceans are fairly accurate, as are the Aqua Terras. The latest version of the 'blue SMP' (as worn in Casino Royale) has not yet been replicated accurately, and even the nicest looking reps still have a variety of flaws, such as printed logo and brand name, which should be metallic attatchments, or the dial missing the luminous 3 marker, and also the placement/allignment of the text on the bottom of the dial. It depends how tollerant you are of flaws. Personally, I wouldn't mind wearing the watch, but, I know that others who demand more accuracy would consider it unacceptable, as it could easily be detected as a rep (by other watch enthusiasts, but possibly not the Viewing Public, who would not know what the proper details should be)

It's the model of watch worn by Richard Dean Anderson in MacGyver. Google hasn't been much help, so I thought I'd see if anyone else might know...

Well the only interesting part I read, is the fact you damaged the hairspring or balance, and they installed a whole new movement.

That's akin to need new spark plugs and an oil change, and the mechanic replacing the engine...

RG

Oh I agree, I know that they're taking the easiest option for them, (and more costly for me) and simply replacing the movement rather than repairing it, but, as I bought the watch with inheritance money, replacing the watch, which would be the cheapest option, would mean having a replacement with no sentimental value, so I'm prepared to accept it as a) my final lesson not to attempt to regulate my own watches, and my final lesson not to attempt to regulate my own watches

TeeJay, whats the big deal? You are making a lot of assumptions, but OK, you are the wise one

I have more important things to do than argue with someone that I don't know about something that neither of us has any authority on.

I still think that article was an interesting read, I was interested in what watches different leaders wear... pretty kewl stuff.

It's really not a big deal, but I've seen the clip, and it was as plain as day to see that someone had the watch off his wrist while he was high-fiing the crowd, and I believe what I can see with my own eyes a lot more than I believe an 'official statement', particularly when that statement is contradicted by what I've seen, and I just don't understand how someone who had seen the footage, would swallow the 'official' version of events

You believe everything you "see" on YouTube?

Have you actually seen the clip?

They claim it wasn't stolen, that he took it off during that time and then put it back on later that same day.

Please explain how someone with his arms outstretched, his hands shoulder width apart, can remove and pocket his watch, while still 'high-fiving' the crowd.

'They' claim it wasn't stolen, because to admit someone could get that close to the President, shows just how easily it would have been for someone to have put a bullet in his face, and that really isn't the kind of thing people would want to be considering.

Have a look at the clip and see for yourself. There's nothing doctored or staged about it, and it is noticeable precicely what point the watch was stolen by one of the crowd.