plaifender

Looks great. Very nice

Can't wait to hear back from you @sander: Wow thanks soo much! I don't even have a caliper, but I'll do somme preliminary measuring tonight.

cool pearl mod! looks great

Since when is medical care a "freebie" in america? And many immigrants presumably didn't arrive legally, what is your information based on? ellis island records? Of course the original purpose of birthright citizenship was not ONLY to provide citizenship to the children of emancipated slaves, but also the first 3 articles made the three-fifths compromise null and void. As a result, states with a large former slave populations were able to count emancipated slaves as population in order to gain more appointments in the house of representatives... The policy is no more abused or less abused than it previously has been. In fact, illegal immigration to america is in rapid decline if you compare it to a decade ago. Check the stats if you don't believe me. I do advocate personal responsibility, but that is up to the person to take responsibilty, not for me to judge them on whether or not their responsibility matches up with what i personally think they should be doing. You can tell as many poor women as you want that it's irresponsible for them to have babies.. but it won't change the fact that they're having them. I agree with you in that barack obama should do nothing nor say anything to the matter of poor people not having babies, just like i believe it's not mine or your place to say who should have babies and who shouldn't. Yes, quite a disaster. but the problem can't be blamed on a single person. If you think barack obama is the problem we're far gone. start with yourself, that's always the best place to start, because unlike blaming others, you can actually change your own actions. You didn't say that. I said it. And I'll say it again: In my opinion it's irresponsible to divide this country any further than it already is by putting the short-comings of our nation as a whole on any specific group of people (republican, democrat, facist, communist or otherwise). We're all to blame. The left side of the country has no more or less to do with this issue than the right. Infant mortality rate is one way to look at quality of life in america but you're also right in that statistics are only as good as your intrepetation is. I apologize for "generalizing" the topic, but It sounds like (at least from what you've written), that you're blaming a lot of our problems in this country on "lower-end" (your word) citizens that have no business having babies, or coming to america in the first place (at least that's the opinion i gathered from you). I also get from your tone that the other half to blame in this problem would be the "left of the bell curve" people. To me, we're all to blame, and have shared responsibility. As a side note: I consider myself a pretty left guy who loves capitalism but not when it comes to education, healthcare, or social welfare. at the same time, I'm also an american constitutionalist and support the right to bear arms for various ammoral reasons @ chief: hopefully, my comments weren't taken too personally. The thread is engaging and a bit divisive but spirited no less.

the usa is not dragged down by any "anchor baby" policy. The garanteed citizenship of anyone born within the u.s. is also a huge part of our identity as a nation. Great grandpa O'donnell, McFarley and Corleone owe everything to our country's open borders and citizenship policy when they immigrated here.. Of course, back then in th 1800's you still had the then named American Republican Party ranting fear about german irish and catholic immigrants infecting american society and taking jobs from "true" americans.... History repeats itself yet once again. As far as the "left" dragging down america... what do you propose Barack obama do to combat infant mortality among the lower soci-economic class in the U.S.? Oh that's right.. how about trying to make health care a priority?? Think he tried that. Get off your political high horse and recognize that our problems as a country have nothing to do with the left or the right, and are everything to do with blaming others and denying any trace of personal responsibility for any problems that our nation has. The country is a lot like this forum.. A Giant community. As individuals we are ALL responsible for the communiity's shortcomings and it's accomplishments. Putting the country's shortcomings off on the "left-side" of the bell curve is ignorant and irresponsible. In my opinion we can either sit back and play the blame game or be men and take some responsbility for ourselves. just my .02cents

If parga's watch is NOT a M660304 serial version.. I'll give you a dollar... haha Never been any questions or confusion about which serial number characterizes this version, but we'll wait for parga to confirm, if it'll make you happy

Trevor's serial number is M660304 great pics parga.. wish you had gotten some side profile shots crown side as well as HE valve comparison shots. .maybe some bracelet shots as well comparing the clasps if you still got access to the gen.. those shot would be GREAT!

if it were madrid I could help you out. Pm MacJulivert.. he's from barcelona

jeez red.. didn't we just celebrate y our 2500th post a couple months ago!! congrats S! members such as yourself make this forum a better place!

that is a V1

WOW... This thread has seen quite a lively last 24 hours! I hope I'm not the cause of any kind of misconceptions or misleadings here. In order to be very clear about my comparison shots. The darker steel version that I had was bought second-hand from a member here on the board. The original souce of this watch is unconfirmed, but was sold to me simply as a "V5". When I ordered trevor's watch, I actually had no idea that the trevor's watch was going to appear brighter than the current "V5" in my possession. Upon arrival, it was quite clear to me that Trevor's watch was a bit lighter colored than the "V5" I had. Both watches then received a rebrushing and polishing with a capecod cloth. After rebrushing I took comparison photos. My photos are not in any way trying to compare the "brightness" or "quality" of the steel. Both steels are quite shiny and look spectacular. I can only say that trevor's watch is a LIGHTER color than my previous version. After a rebrushing and capecod treatment any watch will certainly be brighter, but a rebrushing and polishing will not change the color of any steel. To be honest, the difference in color is quite minimal and ONLY visible under certain lighting conditions and holding BOTH watches in your hand. I cannot speak to BK's version or have I ever at any point compared trevor's version to Bk's offering. I'm happy with trevor's watch, and I'm very confident that BK also sells a very good product, but I cannot tell or speak about the quality or color of BK's version unless my previous version coincidently happened to be the same version as BK's current offering unbeknownst to me. I worked quite hard to get trevor here on the board because I had a very positive experience with him and accordingly communicated with the admins about the possibility of becoming a dealer here. Trevor also asked this of me, and I gladly accepted putting a positive review of my experience with him after consulting first with the admins of the board. He shortly thereafter became a dealer on the board after my review. I don't claim or have I ever claimed that trevor's watch is the best version available, I did lots of research before buying from him and his price point was what pushed me over the edge. I can't attest that sometimes faulty products won't be shipped out on his part, but that with my dealings with him, most importantly he will try to put things correct when they happen to go wrong. As with most trusted dealers here, it's not the qc that makes them trusted.. it's their willingness to correct mistake that makes them trusted here on the board. I hope this served as some clarification for some of you that might have misinterpreted or misread my original post. If anyone has any specific questions they would like to ask me about my experience with trevor please use this thread as the place to do so. Otherwise you can also discreetly send me a pm or email through the forum and I will do my best to give you an unbiased and objective response. -Fender

you might be the youngest member here! good to have you my friend

a day of rememberance. Thanks to all that sacrificed so much for the land of the free and home of the brave.

awesome pics.. everytime i see this watch i like it more and more .. Weird thing is i that i I used to hate it!

awesome tutorial... this deserves a bump

i'm confused about how the bracelet works. Looks as if the bracelet comes with links to connect it to the lugs. I'd of course take the flat links out... How do you know this bracelet will not fit? I've seen a few people with this watch put oracle kevlar and carbon fiber straps on it with no problem.. If an oracle strap will fit, wouldn't the bracelet theoretically? Are the flat links on my watch permanent?

This 177h has an awesome price doesn't it?? I'm no expert on the 177 but i've always wanted one.. and this time this version is looking pretty affordable!

Anyone out there that can tell me if the above bracelet will fit my watch??????

This is big news!!

Nice pics. i used to hate this watch... now it's growing on me! i might actually LIKE IT! p.s. congrats mastrmind! great pics and nice review

Just got this watch 2 days ago. It's a beauty!

+1 lani. p.s. Sorry to venture off topic... Everytime i see a post of yours lately lani, i smile. Your absence around here was highly noticeable. I know you've been back for a while, but it's still nice to see you chime in!!!! Aloha.. Malama Pono bro! -R

Looks great hackr! pretty sweet piece! hard work pays off!

scotchbrite pad is also another subsitute for a refinishing pad... available at most grocery stores I imagine an ink eraser taking a lot longer to refinish an entire case..... although it might be sufficient for removing slight marks.. a metal pad of somesort is optimal....