Rolexman

Thanks for the input WD! I indeed think the second hand is indirect driven because as soon as I hack the second hand stops, but the balance and palet arm still make some swings before slowing down gently. I did notice however some DG2813's I have do hack different e.g. with a direct brake and stop of the balance. So it could be there are some variations between the 2813?. . .

I don't understand. Could you elaborate?

I think you're missing a few steps. You have to take some preliminary measures before you do all those things. 9 out of 10 reps I received (including the UPO) all have loose case backs, non greased seals etc. Just some of the things which can cause major problems when exposing the watch to water and moist. In order to make sure any watch is properly waterproof you have to secure all the possible water entry point: Crown, case back, crystal, (if applicable HEV, chrono pushers)!

Thanks for the input. If you didn't understand it how can I? I doubt it but thanks for the participation anyway

Well the title is pretty self explanatory. When I shake (hard) a DG2813 sometimes the hand freezes for a second (or less). All my DG2813 movements do this. I presume this affects it's time keeping permance e.g. when jogging. I find this a little strange but as all my DG2813 watches do this I think it is normal for this movement. . . Any insights on what causes it?

Well the title is pretty self explanatory. When I shake a DG2813 sometimes the hand freezes for a second (or less). All my DG2813 movements do this. I presume this affects it's time keeping permance e.g. when jogging. I find this a little strange but as all my DG2813 watches do this I think it is normal for this movement. . . Any insights on what causes it?

SSD is the most accurate and has the best modding possibilities.

You can't judge a book by it's cover . . .

There are some additional measures necessary before you can swim with this watch. I will post some technical pics and 'how-to' to make sure it is waterproof this week-end. In a nutshell: Remove case back Remove the crown/ stem Uncase the movement Glue/ putty the HEV hole Case the movement Grease the two crown seals Insert the crown/ stem Grease the case back seal Put the case back back on Use a case back tool to thighten the case back Result? It tested to the max on my tester (6 ATM ) . So IMO you can even dive with it!

Pics provided by Pr0digy30. The problem he and I are having is putting the bridge back on. . .

That's a looker for sure. You do however need to buy a matching ring .. platinum perhaps?

Hell yeah, I studied the pic a good 30 seconds and I still can't see what you're talking about

It also depends on the crystal gasket. I just push out the crystal on my SSD with my thumb and repress it with a large heavy book (hardback) by just sitting on it with my fat ass . Due to the large surface of the book the pressure is evenly spread over the crystal. But this only applies to flat crystals a la SSD.

I don't think there are any replica DG2813 movements as they are already cheap as hell. They cost around $12 retail and whole sale maybe 2~5 bucks. So you get a real genuine DG2813 IMO

I don't have a diamond tester so I tested it with the 'water drop' test and the 'fingernail tick-sound' test so this proves both aren't very accurate I do however think the saphire is very thin tough. Post edited.

Can't argue with that On all the pics I saw and reviews I read it seemed and was referred to as double AR. Now I know the truth. Thanks!

My PO arrived yesterday. I will post some technical shots soon but here are some short observations. -The dial/ hands are absolute immaculate. Not a spec of dust or smudge anywhere. -Smooth bracelet. I don't think it needs to be oiled at all. -Compared to my SSD lite the PO is a very heavy watch with a more quality feel. -Crown is very solid and screws down a good 3 turns. -Claps fold markings are etched instead of engraved. -Best of all scratch proof Sapphire crystal -It has a double AR look but it's just a blue coating with no reflection dimishing properties. -Bezel clicks nice and solid. -No capital P and O ond the Planet Ocean engravement on the case back. -Bracelet has a gen like construction with pins and tubes (a [censored] to size). -Nice gold and clean 21j DG2813 movement which I already managed to regulate to +2 sec/dag on my SSD. It's a great work horse. -Plastic movement spacer. -2 crown seals!! -The HEV was secured with a impossible to reach c-clip so I couldn't check nor grease the seals. -The inside of the case back was also marked with all the propper Omega markings which is a nice touch. For only 65 pounds ths is a very nice rep. I As stated I will post some pics soon!

I have both but for the PO the 1st one works good for me. Especially because one doesn't know how the 3 studs of the second are positioned. It could be that the 3th stud is not in the correct position and therfore doesn't fit the hole/ cut out of the case back. Preference:

Latest versions were with DOUBLE AR... no question about it.

Buy a stickybal....lt it will save you mucho $$$$$$$ PS: Sorry to hear about your bad luck.

Remember the thread 'little white lies'? I'm not saying it isn't waterproof. However, 1000m will be out of the question, 100m could be possible. But than again you still have the HEV issue as explained above. This construction could be simular to the DSSD, I don't know much about that model. The construction of the HEV can been seen in one of the reviews of the Seawolf.

I owned a gen SOSF and the rep can be spoted from 3 feet away due to the pearl. The poor lume job on the hour markers is an instand give-away too! In regards to accuracy the Seawolf is the better choice.

The HE valve constructed for trouble. Instead of only popping open from pressure within the case (inside-out), it can be pushed in from the outside (outside-in)... So if the HEV is pushed only gently (by accident) when submerged your Seawolf will be a Waterwold. . . . For swimming one can't beat the Submariner rep. It has a genuine like trip-lock crown (3 seals), screw down case back and no additional gadgets (e.g. HEV). Just make sure the crystal is seated correctly and the case back is thightened and you're ready to swim or even dive

Thanks for the info. Looking forward to the findings and pics

same here mate. I'm also anxiously waiting till it hits my doormat . . .