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OOH! Sorry, Khumzi...I've been busy today, as I will tomorrow, but I finally saw this other post calling out to me. My mum too. This is why I'm so messed up. On the wrong person, Panerai watches can look gimmicky. If my father were at all into PAMs, and were doing hospital rounds with them, I would actually think they would look out of place, to be TOTALLY honest. Patients want reassurance. There is this medical doctor dad knows who does sock-puppet tricks when checking his patients (no, not a paediatrician, which would PERHAPS make sense), and wears kipper ties as part of his "bedside manner". Sure, some enjoy it, but most of the people look at him like he's a freak. Even the nurses don't take him that seriously. In your case, err on the conservative side. It's STILL Panerai, and therefore SUPER-COOL! First, whichever PAM you choose, even the pricey DSN or modded TWP ones, I can assure you will turn around a few months later, and buy the other choice you give us below, SO, with that in mind. ...my answer is an unequivocal "Go with the PAM 111" from TWP, as you said. And take advantage of the 50% off coupon to get yourself one of these three Mario Pacis (since you mentioned them specifically): Mario Paci Special Edition Cognac Mario Paci Decima (X) Bourgogne Mario Paci XIII "3646" in Nero ...they will all look awesome eventually with your PAM 117, which is definitely quirky enough to buy later!

HUGE, just huge yes. However, this girl raised with Nigel Mansell battling it out every fortnight with Alain Prost, simply cannot get into NASCAR. I've tried. We have a world-class speedway in Homestead, built after the city was levelled post-Hurricane Andrew. I went, saw, and just said, nhhuh-nhuh. And those are my people. Blue-collar, hard-working, hard-living, hard-loving Americans. Didn't help that a tyre flew off a car, over the barriers, and landed within 30 yards of us...

I know this is tongue-in-cheek, Lonnie, but just to clarify for those unaware -- neither the UK nor the US has compulsory "Dienst"/military type service, where young males do a year or so of military duty at the age of 18. It's one of the few countries, in fact, where that's the case. (In Germany, you can choose to opt out of the actual military and do some type of community service, but very few men actually refuse outright to serve. All the males in my family have, and my mother is from a traditional family who easily could use their pull to take them out as "conscientious objectors" or so) I asked my boyfriend if he had to do so in Italy, being a dual Canadian-Italian citizen. He said, they haven't nabbed him yet! Don Cherry weeps! And the Princess Patricia Regiment! Sissies.

Hey now! Where you ticked when the US Postal team were backing Lance to all those Tour de France victories? Good for Junior, I say!

It's almost 1:30 AM where you are, so I know you are going to bed. Forgive the rush job. For the record, the Toscana Fiero and my PAM 177h are "married". They go together like ham and eggs, red states and bibles, Captain and Tennille. But man, this combo looks GOOD. Thanks for opening up my eyes, Maxi! Looks like your gut instinct paid off (sorry I didn't see your earlier SOS). (More in the Wristies, Friday!)

I have the Toscana Vacchetta in Amber!! I wish I had a blue-faced PAM (gorgeous BTW, Maximilian), so I could do a quick Wrist-check for you. Maybe I could put in on the PAM 177h?

Now that is interesting, Defacto. Putting on PAM straps on other watches. Someone should post about this! P.S.: TeeJay, I've had my eye on that very strap for a while! $179.00 divided by 2 = 89.5...never seen it lower... P.P.S.: TeeJay, could you take a look at your PMs. I ask a followup question about your SC strap, since the link was missing.

Nono! I agree. Hence . I think it's a travesty to put on such a strap on a watch which is a DIRECT hommage to the Xa-Mas submariners.

I very much doubt it, Kokoko. I bought from a member in the RWG Sales section. Mineral glass, so doubt it would be Ti. Sorry about that. It's eventually going to be my boyfriend's, because it's just TOO massive, and doesn't have the graceful, feminising lines of the PAM 47mms.

Too good not to mention guys, but please excuse if this is bad form: Timeconnection.biz is having ANOTHER 50% sale, via other rep watch forums. Please have a gander at exact details there, and do take advantage of the situation, strapaholics. I don't usually mention those other forum deals, but this is special. I'm thinking of all of you who especially wanted the Senape (which I've been told has limited stocks), or the Fiero, but couldn't conceive forking out almost $200 for a strap. Me, I'm deciding whether to go with GeF's La Spezia: Or, finally, the Mario Paci XI -- the Papaya: In 24mm, to be used primarily with my PAM 112. I would've chosen the Papaya already, if only for the fact that I favour reddish tones in straps. But if you have any opinions either way, please let me know. Update: All is well. To those that understand my meaning, you will know what a weight off my mind this is. I'll begin the Caper Part 5 tonight!

http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=21017&hl= Almost agree. I think it's that and presence. Sometimes I think Pugwash's watches are too big for him, but he looks great in them. To me, that counts too, yes?

WEDNESDAY As many of you are aware, my thoughts these two days have been elsewhere. No time for proper Wristies or Capers, up to my usual standards. So just two quickies. THURSDAY DSN Fiddy on Greg Steven's Crazy Horse with antique white stitch. Now THAT'S more like it, Sssurfer!

More so than that -- you like to challenge. This is why male humour tends towards the childish, like fart sounds. Again, neither here nor there to the topic at hand. Just thought I'd throw that out, so to speak. I think that has EVERYTHING to do with this post! Again, about challenge, even with the self. Yes. I'd just like to note that I collect militaria, and like my father, was a philatelist when young. I specialised in Romanian stamps. Don't ask. Utilitarianism would be just as boring, however laudable Jeremy Bentham calculated everything in its most logical form. There is something very cold and unnatural about such utopian people, like Bentham and Veblen. RIGHT! I'm glad you brought that up. Although he does note he likes Patek Phillippe and B&R watches, at the end, which reforms him from mere self-righteous posturing. LOL! An A. Whitney Brown effete intellectual Supercuts special. Quite. He is the reverse of what I would imagine 99% of us here are -- proud of always being practical above the mere consumer-numbing tastes of richies and poseurs, as he sees us. I especially like his dig at athletes and their love of jewelry. The tiniest inference that these macho men are in truth closet cases.

Well...so far, I got 2 out of 3 wrong. I'm sure the old dude isn't wearing a Patek Nautilus. And Sofia Helin isn't wearing a Cartier Tank Americaine. In fact, I can't place the watch. Want to say it's an Ebel, or at least a Rado, but really, I think it looks like a Geneva or Kenneth Cole... But here are two screenshots of the possible Tag Heuer Aquaracer: What say the resident WISses?

The compliment of a lifetime!! You're so sweet, Raymond! So wonderfully chivalrous. I was born this way, thinking as you correctly say about my mindset, that "Nothing is Impossible". But living in America helps. The land where the impossible is just another way of saying, "momentary setback". All I can say is thank you! I shall return to the thread on my return from hospital. Dad comes back home today, yay!

I was waiting for Sssurfer's reaction! But you know. It's better than wearing a Pippi.

Now THAT is a nice pink croc-Panerai watch combo. O M F G. Seriously, if that's Mrs. Corpsman, you're a lucky guy. Nice rings at that! You must've mortgaged the family homestead to get her that eternity band, and three-pronged princess cut solitaire with baguette diamonds. My mum's hobby is jewelry-design. She taught me well.

Another interesting piece, this time, which I found on a blog which describes its purpose as, "Sociology, Criminology, Self-indulgery*". Heh. "When i give a lecture, i accept that people look at their watches... ... but what I do not tolerate is when they look at it and raise it to their ear to find out if it stopped. - marcel archard characteristically, the sunday times dug up a book attributing the rise of the $8,000 handbag to modern female psychology: "overworked, emotionally starved and unlucky in love, they seek the “security blanket” of the perfect leather sidekick." uh, no. the phenomenon looks like classic veblenian economic sociology to me. as for gender, dudes have done the same thing for years. (-ed Vbarret: Ugh, don't get me started on Veblen and his "Theory on the Leisure Class") flipping through a men's magazine (no, not that kind of men's magazine), i couldn't believe all the advertisements for high-end watches. it would appear that wealthy men are just as overworked, emotionally starved, and unlucky in love as wealthy women. tiger woods, uma thurman, and all manner of celebrities and sports figures were trying to sell me $5,000 timepieces. my current watch, purchased for $15 at target a few years ago, is shown above.* (-ed Vbarrett: Actually, like many objects at Target, a chain store which "targets" working middle-class people in the US, it looks good and is decently priced. I wouldn't wear it, but it's not odious) even if i could afford it, it seems really silly to spend more than a few dollars on a watch today. a generation ago, an expensive watch would have delivered vastly superior functionality and accuracy relative to a cheap watch. today, the cheap ones function quite well and the kids tell time via cell phone rather than wristwatch anyway. rolexes are flashier, i suppose, but some very flashy cheap watches are available at any dollar store if one is so inclined. some of the shady ones even say rolex right on the dial. they look sort of like those cartoonishly masculine super bowl rings to me, shouting "behold my power! my thick and muscular bejeweled accessories are not girly at all!" (-ed. Remember Joe Montana and his "Panerai"? Here he is with his Super Bowl haul) i've learned that i'm not personally cut out for a rolex, since i once drew laughs by pronouncing their submariner model as submareener rather than sub-mariner. this one is more my style. (-ed. VBarrett: ) but i shouldn't be too picky. if you just have to get me something for the holidays, i'm more partial to patek philippe for dress and bell & ross for knockin' around. who knows? someday i might need to blog from 11,000 meters. From: hxxp://chrisuggen.blogspot.com/2006/11/when-i-give-lecture-i-accept-that.html (change xx to tt) -- So, what do you think, RWG males? Are you really "overworked, emotionally starved, and unlucky in love", and hence your interest in high-end watches? Or do you do so to assert your natural superiority amongst the great unwashed who blissfully just wear Timexes? By the way, one of the best ripostes to Veblen's theories was by none other than maverick American journalist, H.L. Mencken. He said this about our consumer motivations: "Do I enjoy a decent bath because I know that John Smith cannot afford one - or because I delight in being clean?"

Bruce, I'd kill for your wife's tan! Tell her from me, she looks amazing with that Base on. It may be the most flattering black-faced PAM out there, for BOTH sexes. @Defacto: Ooh, ooh. Charvet ties. You are my kinda man! Every man should own one, even if they cost the earth. And as you know, high-powered individuals adore daring people, who stand out from the mundane crowd. This is my only explanation for why I wear Roberto Cavalli skirts in leopard prints. Seriously, got no other reason.

Me too! Hey! I never knew you called me Bigfoot. Beats my other forum nickname -- Chupacabra.

See? There you go. No worries on the PAM 112, since I'll be the first to admit we ladies look wonderful with a pink strap on PAMs. This strap is just so wrong on this particular watch though. Other than my Bob Vanilla, which I ADORE so much I bought two, this is my first "Ladies"-coloured strap, though I wouldn't call the Vanilla ladies-only. Look at b12a6. The seller was holding a baby blue croc for me, in case I liked the pink croc. Regrettably, I had to inform him I wasn't interested. He's such a nice guy, too...

Well, I wore it all day today. I won't say the seller's name (ladies or daring gents can PM me, should they want the website addy), but my heart broke for him when I opened his package. My instant reaction was O M F G. You know how much I revere history -- and the history of the Panerai marque means a lot to me, as I hope it does to any Panerista. It should be honoured. So when I put on this ladies' sized pink croc strap on the PAM 217, I thought of all those maiale submariners...underwater...doing what they did...and I honestly went, "ugh". Fine, okay, wear the pink on the PAM 112, ladies, or the PAM 113. But come on, not on the Fiddy or the Diddy. Mwaha. I can't even get my boyfriend to wear a nice pink Banana Republic shirt.

Thoughts:

Oops, somehow my post was erased and replaced by this update! I was talking of having watched Swedish film, "Nina Frisk", and the watches I spied. More below.

Even if he's innocent (and I don't believe that for a second), he's still a creep. http://www.mylovehewitt.com/mylovenews/outcast.htm ...where do you start? A boast, a bully, a sexist, an user, and already thinks of his daughter Sydney as a "German" beeatch. Yipes. P.S.: I've been to that Wild Oats supermarket. Wow. Thank God, I live far away from it!