Victoria

Swiss ETA white 89485X!

Another excellent tip from Gioarmani! I think I heard that from Bear Grylls too, but no matter. Thanks.

FRIDAY Fellas, you're spoilt. We ladies usually don't get to wear the gorgeous watches meant for you. Always thought that was the case with me and Breitlings. Until Now. ...presenting MY FISH!!! Feta, baby, I love you like a brother, but that SFSO bracelet I bought from you is as difficult to put on as building the Empire State Bldg! I gave up, and put on ChinkieChunkie's gen Breitling diver strap. (I still don't like it for ME, so I've ordered two new tan straps already. ) Hello! Double AR sings to me! You have to put it at an IMPOSSIBLE angle to see any reflection at all. HOW do they do that?! SUNDAY Hope you are sitting down, because this strap will blow you away. A Julien Landa vintage ammo pouch strap for my DSN Fiddy. :wub: I think this is THE PERFECT FIDDY STRAP. Full stop. Thick! Lookie. Lovey. Wristie. ...will post the Saturday ones on Saturday. HAGW, people!

I know, I know. Hang on to your boxers, Scoobs! Because I am just about to post pics you won't like on the Wristies. However, just to soften the blow, as promised: This is the watch Henry Higgins put on Eliza Doolittle when she became a lady.

My MP PAVs PAV 91: Middle stiff texture. It has a very rich, strong feel to it, in terms of character and pliability. (Have 24/26mm, others 24mm only) PAV 90: Middle texture. It holds its shape nicely. PAV 99: Soft texture. Doughy but not overly so. PAV 98: Softest and most pliable of them all. Barely any breaking-in needed.

Thank God. I see them too. @Nanuq:

Thanks!! This is my first suspicion, because as I say, the CD/DVD writer was working at speed (8x) the week after I got it back home. Suddenly, it downgraded itself. None at all. Just flashing amber lights in rapid succession, in front of the Dell tower. I let it rest last night, when it started doing that. So far, it hasn't suddenly switched itself off today... Flamemax, and Ryya , I am going to take it back to the techies tomorrow, because I PRESUME I have a warranty. It hasn't been 3 weeks yet. I do have a very great laptop, which I used in the Dell's absence. Modesty compels me not to use it in the bathtub, Ryyannon. RWG deserves a break during my ablutions.

I wish my heart and pen could sing with the poetry of Mr. Parris' wisdom. Savouring every word, I do however realise I'm just a practical, unromantic European who wishes for as pristine a possible mechanism, rather than the dings of a talisman. Oh, not all the time. "Dag-Olav", my beloved Swedish auto, rests peacefully in in my garage, to ride again one day. I'm just about to buy a minty new German ride, but I tell you, I still love that old cantakerous Swede, with the knowing love of a child bride. And I wear watches whose decades count in 4 or 5, when I'm in special need of comfort. @Nanuq: Does it really! Love it, thanks!

As far as ACTUAL Wristchecks of yours go, this is my favourite now. Great shot! Marshall?

Magiko, I was sure someone better qualified than I would've answered, but just to get the ball rolling, I believe you're talking of EdgeKote. http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/products.asp?dept=174 Greg Stevens uses it for many of his rough-hewn but finished straps. This what the CHII looks like new: And the older CH Classic, aged. @Magiko: Alas! It's not my own made-strap. Please read again. They're from the famous strapmaker from Paneristi.com -- Greg Stevens. These two examples can be found on his blog: gregstraps.blogspot.com. Perhaps he has more details, although I am sure V, Tootall, and others will let you know better!

I love my lady Cartiers, and other Quartz watches. But I have never liked the implication that women are not as detail-oriented as men, and thus would fail to handwind or maintain their watches properly. Conceding this may be indeed true, just upsets me more. That's what a quartz means to me. It's the microwave to the oven. It's the automatic to the 5-speed. It's one less skill to master as a human. Darn if they aren't convenient though.

Nanuq, what do you know of the sufferings of Vicki Sue Robinson, of Blue Suede Schubert, of Disco Tex and his Sex-O-Letts? Maybe it took them years to bust out their one-hit wonder only for a Mozart aficionado to dismiss their musical efforts as bubble-gumminess! ... Of course, that is NOT my real reply. Your post and the words behind it are sublime. Whilst I don't judge mechanical breakdowns as character, it cannot be denied that one always remembers most that which was ornery, and made you WORK to use it. When great care and tradition went into its making, it'll always be perfect. Thanks for the insight, Nanook of the North!

It's no bother at all, that's why these forums exist, Zotter. Welcome to the forum, BTW! Unfortunately, the name didn't ring a bell. There are a list of forum-suggested dealers, available to all upgraded Supporters, and cool-watches.com is not one of their sites. In fact, according member Dax, they are a scam site. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showto...mp;#entry376144 Group Six, which was rated as a higher than average scam site. I wish I could give you better news, and indeed, this info may turn out to be wrong, but that's what I could find out for you. Hope another member has dealt with them, and can give you more satisfying news. Good luck, either way!

YAY! I'm so glad to hear it, Klink! Okay, guys another techie problem. See if you can help me out, Cornerstone. VICTORIA'S COMPUTER WOES TALE I just got my 2 y.o. Dell XPS 200 computer back from techies who installed a fresh 320GB HD. Previous to this, I had a half-year's worth of my computer shutting down at unexpected moments. The front of the tower, had blinked amber lights instead of a steady green, when doing so. I always disconnected it, and it rebooted until one day, it just wouldn't any more. (Please don't scold; I know I should've taken care of it earlier). Techies assured me my HD had gone bad, and I needed to change it. I picked the new one up two weeks ago, and last night, SECONDS after posting my last reply to the religion thread (5 AMish), it does the same thing -- HD shuts down forcibly, and I get amber lights in front of tower. Having paid $500 something dollars (!) for a complete diagnosis, itself $199, install of a new Western Digital HD, paid for a new external Seagate 250GB, and backup of my old HD, I expected it never to cause me these problems again. I can only assume the problem was not a bad HD, or it was a combination of factors, which these techies didn't ferret out. What do you think is going on? BTW, I left instructions to check the CD/DVD writer because though it burns 8x, it was slogging at 2x at the most. The techie said because the HD was bad, it was doing that. With the minty HD, it should be working at speed again. At first yes, but I'm at 2x again. Now this. HELP! Thanks!

Ah, but you get them on the internet, in newsgroups, in forums, in academia, many places. Now, I'm not talking about you. From what I can see, though passionate, you are rational, Pug (as condenscending as that sounds, for which I apologise -- unfortunately, even when observing something positive about another human, one has to be careful not to offend). Having seen your jolly Christmas tree, I realised immediately you are not completely immune to the cultural pull of religion around you. I have met many many Atheists who shun those who accept a modicum of religiosity around them. Ironically, this absolutism, this derisive attitude reminds one of the most extreme of religious people. ...well, the thread is coming to a close I fancy. It reminded me of the Teddy Bear thread, and I learnt much from the many opinions here. Let's see what "tomorrow" brings, but I think I am outties. Thanks TeeJay, Demon, Pug, Raijor and all of you! It ain't easy talking of religion. I think RWG did well again.

Yes, I've personally met Holocaust survivors who lost all belief in God after their ordeal. And likewise, I have met Holocaust survivors whose faith in God was never stronger than after their ordeal. How does one argue about Atheism or Belief to these people? I wouldn't even dare. Having said that, whatever I go through personally, does not influence concepts which may exist outside my own life. That's kind of tough to say and not be really pedantic, so I never say it (save now). Because people mix up the concept of God, with the concept of religion? I don't know. I just offer that as an opinion.

A word about this, in passing. His conversion and subsequent life may have been problematic in Christian terms, but his conversion transformed his aged mother's life. St. Helena, as she later was known, was over 80 years old when she travelled to Jerusalem, charged with bringing back the Holy Relics, like the True Cross, from the Holy Lands. This woman became famous for her piety, kindness, penitence, and humility though she was made "Augusta", the highest rank in the land. She can be said to have lived a Christ-like life the moment Christ touched her heart. Not everyone's conversion is as dramatic as hers. But there are many kinds of Christians, and clearly both Constantine I and St. Helena encompass them, contradicting each other, in a very human way.

This has been an interesting thread, with surprising replies, at least for me. Now I wonder how much guys being WISses here has to do with this. Do the Fossil and Tommy Bahama guys who aren't necessarily too knowledgeable, judge Sub-wearing guys as loaded and macho? Or are watches just not on the radar for masculine points with you lads? See, being a woman sometimes has pitfalls in trying to "read" how men interact.

Don't do it, Emmzy! In 10 years, small watches will be back in style. And oh, they'll also be mobiles! And possibly pizzas too.

Ironically enough, Pug, you are championing a concept which takes away the very thing which allows you to be an atheist -- choice. Leave it up to people, and thereto society, what they "should" believe in. I've noticed there's nothing more intolerant in this world than Atheists. Religious people, incredibly enough, by acknowledging that there IS or MIGHT BE a Higher Being than themselves, are wrestling with incertitude about life. But Atheists presume to answer that there is nothing out there greater than the sum of our parts. And worse, they're preachier than a holy roller in the Bible Belt. Here's an exercise in speculation, Pug. I, as a person who believes completely in God, can intellectually accept that hey, maybe there is no God. Can you do the same? Can you admit your most deeply held beliefs are or might be wrong?

Couldn't agree more with you, Toad. Also, H&P, please pay close attention to Gioarmani. I've noticed these past months, that he has flawless taste. That was a great suggestion of the salmon-dial DJ (even if it is round).

TeeJay, if you'll permit, I think the problem in discussing religion tends to lie in comparing two religions. Because when you compare, even to try to elucidate points, value judgements enter the dialogue. And that's where human beings take DEEP offence. Demon earlier referenced reincarnation. Your reply was like me replying to him, "Well, we Roman Catholics do not believe in reincarnation, which to boot is a ridiculous concept, since we have immortal souls. If you take reincarnation at face value, then you can never help poor people, because they obviously are suffering for past misdeeds." That would've been both rude, and arrogant of me, in the context of the discussion. That's how your words about Christianity sounded, if you get my meaning. You're a gentle man. But converts tend to speak in absolutes which can cause offence. Heck, even us cafeteria Catholics have to be careful.

Hey TeeJay, wassup. Right. But they were an important start, you'll agree. There's nothing wrong,

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