Victoria

Can't believe no one has mentioned TMG's lovely swiss cheese strap yet. I think it's tailor-made for that Tudor! It is an acquired taste however. At first, I was surprised. TMG Below: "Dluddy actually noticed it -straps never get by you two" ...damn skimpy. And a compliment for sure. Is it a Rios strap like the one I showed that time?

Since no one has mentioned it, the premier 3717 strapmaker is Aaron Tan, known as HKTAN on the forums. Eunomians has had his beautiful 3717 strap done by him. From what I can see, exceptional quality though not cheap. Not too sure one can post his email openly, but a PM to HKTAN might do the trick. Please note, he recently had some personal problems and he is already famous for being a little tardy in his strapmaking. I've been told it's worth the wait, however.

Snuck in my opinion in the Lord Rasta thread. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=390630 Didn't like it. And I WANTED to. To make this less OT, I saw a man wearing a PAM in the cinema! I was in the concessions stand, and he was milling in the lobby. But clear as day, there was a Luminor PAM on possibly the famous Xa-Mas Vintage strap. My heart raced so fast when I saw it. If I ever see a Fiddy, I think I'd faint.

Thanks, Fitmic, guys! This is merely an exploratory thread. I don't know who or what could do this. And also, I think it should be a pay-as-you-go venture, if it's done. Not for profit. I just think there should be more accurate rep dials.

As you can see, people have a problem with the efficiency of government to maintain citizen records. This is truly a first in British history, the land of bureaucratic record-keeping, and genealogy since the Domesday Book. And goes to prove the social argument that homogeneous societies have less issues like these.

Has it ever happened on RWG that a graphic designer and the membership spoke about producing a run of more accurate Panerai dials? I mean, I know it's not easy. The cutting has to be very precise. That "12" is pesky... But it seems to me if we wait for an accurate OP logo in say, a 005, with the right slant, or the right size, that we'll always be at the mercy of collectors. Obviously, part of the game is to sell inaccurate reps so the next (better, but not perfect) version will sell. So why not club our resources together, and make dials for the most popular PAMs (111, 112, 127)? Then a modder could install them, etc. Is this feasible at all?

Let's have a little WIS fun, shall we? Comparison of DSN PAM 113 movement/caseback with gen PAM 113. DAVIDSEN 113 GEN 113 1- Engraving depth on caseback decent on DSN 113. However, it's not as finely etched on the DSN. 2- Spacing between characters wrong. a. "Officine" & "Panerai" should be closer together. b. Font on caseback engraving thinner on DSN 113. c. Distance between "PB" and "OP" numerals too wide, etc. d. Missing OP logo between Stainless Steel and Water Resistant sign (fish). e. 300m etched too high up. f. Serial number and limited edition number should not be so deeply and darkly etched, with a pronounced border surrounding them. 3- C

Finally, he listens! I nominated this thread as Post of the Year when Terje was asking for info on cheap reps. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=363684

That sun just looks too Asian and happy. It's freaking me out.

I was dying to check out the new RamboPAM, but alas, sold out tonight -- ALL showings until midnight. I went to see Sweeny Todd instead. Mistake (although it was good as far as musicals go).

No contest. I'm with FxrAndy -- 253 all the way. (Gen)

I have VERY punctual parents, so I think I rebelled inside myself, and I confess I'm often late. If it's someone I know, that is. If it's a business meeting, or a formal event, no way. Also, my tardiness has limits -- 10-30 minutes late, fine. 1-3 hours late is just plain rude.

Finally, we have a "yes"! Don't get me wrong, I still don't care for IDs, to put it mildly; but I think it's crucial to have all sides of the argument represented. Normally, b16a2, I have an allergy to immigration talk. I find either the nationalist crazies come out, or those who would open their country to all and sundry, do. Both are extremely antipathic to me. But I am very against IDs for the express use of controlling immigration. However, the issue of ILLEGAL immigration gets confused with being anti-immigrant, per se. Recently, when Jeb Bush was governor of Florida, he spearheaded a law which made it impossible to get a driving license without showing proof of residency and a Social Security card. Before that, believe or not, anyone coming from an airplane could present themselves at the DMV, and get a Florida driver's license. If you could drive a car, you got a license. The license itself is a springboard to getting a Social Security card, opening a bank account, getting a voter's registration card (!), etc. etc. A Catch-22 if ever there was one. The week before this was to take into effect, you couldn't get NEAR a DMV site. All the illegals were making sure they got a license. I queried my then boyfriend (a lawyer) asking why didn't INS just station themselves in those DMVs, asking for Green Cards (which we legal immigrants are supposed to carry), and cart away those who were illegal. No, because that's entrapment and racial profiling, I was told. These are the kinds of things that were LONG overdue about being tightened up, post 9/11. There is no need for national IDs if you pass the same law as was passed by Governor Bush. A STATE law, I hasten to add. It should be a State by State basis, not a federal one.

Thanks for the compliments, fellas. Update: Davidsen unfortunately has no more E-series movements with swan necks. His supplier can no longer source them. He asked for me to take the last H-series, and said changing the CG to brushed is no problem. I can live with that. @Sattop: Lovely 113! Yes, not sure why you got that caseback, but perhaps you can email DSN to send you a replacement? Or have you already?

I'd pay ready money to have Mrs. FxrAndy post regularly on the Wristchecks. It's so lonely being the only lady who shows her watches.

No, I realise that. But I meant that one has to present something now stating you are registered with the National Health, in England, before being seen each time. But that's still not the case in Scotland. True or false? In my day, you went to the local clinic/surgery* and got a ticket. When your number was called, you were seen by the GP. End of. *For the benefit of North Americans, who think a surgery stands only for an operation.

Well, sure. For example, I am interested in the history of Opus Dei too, but that doesn't mean I like the entity AT ALL. I say this as a fervent Roman Catholic. -- I hate Dan Brown for outting them, since loathing the Opus Dei was my secret since adolescence. -- Conspiracy theories are nothing new in the world, and their explanations can be "fun", in the way cow-tipping can be fun (I guess). They really took off after the French Revolution, which was attributed to: Freemasons, the Illuminati, the Jesuits, and of course, everyone's favourite whipping boys, the Joos (mostly in the form of the Rothschilds). Today, it's Halliburton (the Freemasons), the World Bank (the Illuminati), the UN (the Jesuits), but yep, still the Joos (Neo-Conservatives like Paul Wolfowitz, also the head of the World Bank and a Bilderberger, conspiracy theory JACKPOT!). Once you step on this mud of logic, you come out very dirty indeed. EDIT: @ the Prince B comment!! Poor Prince Bernhard, so hated by the Dutch. Okay he was corrupt, but not without courage in WWII. I say, give the German a break.

Ah, I had been told that had changed in England. Oh wait, you live in Scotland -- no IDs are needed there, still, I believe? That's why a recent story in the local paper had mentioned a Haitian taking the first flight to Prestwick, deplaning, and getting a kidney transplant for free in Glasgow. There would be charter medical flights to the US if we had socialised health care with no IDs. Nightmare. EDIT: Hmm, I inadvertently answered your followup below, by this Haitian lady anecdote. "The point about Socialised Medicine is you don't need 300,000,000 people registered. We don't have it in the UK and if you turn up at hospital, you don't need ID because everyone gets free service. You're assumed to be eligible, by default, if you turn up."

Like most biometric information used presently by governments, it is stored for record-keeping purposes only. I wish I still frequented a forum where I had made a lot of Finnish friends. I could ask them about this LIKE THAT. Unfortunately, I can only Wiki the info now: "Finland In Finland, any citizen can get an identification card (henkil

Good show. OTOH, a Rolex booklet is not proof-positive that they are not a scam site, since the real test is an actual rep watch. Just to note though: Watchcartel (heh) are not listed in Dax' comprehensive scam site list, here. @Edwin: Ah no. I'll stick to the real cartel thanks.

Oh God, Dutchy please not Zeitgeist. That's like recommending all the other tinfoil conspiracy theory "documentaries" out there, of which I have watched almost all. Loose Change, The Assassination of JFK, Jr., and anything to do with the Bilderberg Conference. Didn't you hear? Prince Bernhard was the anti-Christ!!

In fact, this is one of the main obstacles of having anything approaching socialised health care in the US: because over 300 million people would have to be registered in this massive bureaucracy, with IDs being issued. Biometric info would surely have to be included. Conspiracy theorists ABOUND in this topic, and they are both of the Left and Right. FWIW, Finland has culled biometric information of their citizens since the mid-1970s (they started by collecting footprints of newborns, and have since gotten the DNA of every Finnish citizen born there). I don't see them having a hissy fit about it, nor distrusting their government and corporations like Nokia. But much of this has to do trusting your own. Social scientists point to the fact that they are a homogenous society (coincidentally like Britain was in the 1940s...), and homogeneous peoples are more likely to be a trusting society than "multi-cultural" societies.

I don't know. I am getting the last H-series Swiss ETA movement with swan neck that he has. I'm glad you caught the polished CG, FGD, thanks! This is why RWG is so important to me. Many eyes and brains thinking with me, better than me.

Davidsen just sent me a preview of my 113. What do you think? The lume is spectacular. It's how Raymond described his DSN 113 -- like Star Wars light-sabres. EDIT: Oh wait! Isn't it supposed to have decorated bridges??