mikellem

That watch was selling...{and it was selling} for with shipping for $345.. Some dealers then took it down to $300, but don't for a moment think that if everyone was gladly forking over $300 that the price would have dropped... Bidding made it fall... and Quickly.... Why should anyone pay an extra $75 to $100 for a First release watch ? I do agree with what RT says above. A group buy does reduce the intial HIGH price of a new rep! This is a biggie, I agree!

Excellent color with the 195,,, I am jealous..

Excellent educational site for movements! Thanks..

Excellent work Tribal, and nice pics too!

I totally agree. After reading this complete thread, I am totally exhausted! I agree that there is nothing wrong with Ruby becoming a valuable dealer here, except I have never and will never be involved in a group buy. Group buys take away sales which support all the dealers, Not just one dealer per new watch. 20 pcs. of one watch is a very nice order for one dealer, Except normally those 20 pcs. would be distrubuted by 4 or 5 dealers. OK, yes we were able to drop the price.....Except now what the about the other 4 dealers who lost of of making $300 or $400 on that particular watch..? Those 4 dealers make nothing! I honestly believe the following. Dealers need to make a living. This is not an easy business by any means selling watches here. I stand on the following that dealers will operate on the following premise ..."Pay me now or Pay me later"... I personally am looking at the long term relationship with our dealers...And I mean dealers,,,,Not one or 2 of them. We have the finest of the finest here....Let's not muck it up by trying to save a buck... I think we are cutting our own throats with group buys, and eventually dealers will act differently towards members whom always use group buys. Reasons are as follows..I have relationships with most of our dealers. I respect them and I feel they respect me. I would not want to see other dealers loose profits because we make a group buy and I saved $50 bucks. Maybe it's just me....But I do cherish our dealers.... I feel I pay them to go the extra mile for me. When you get a discounted product and the product is defective, No way this one dealer can solve all the problems that could arise! Bill, I want to Thank You for personally opening up this topic for discussion and it's been bothering me also.. Just my 2 cts...

Nice pair! My choice is the 1680..

Isn't La Bamba the infamous 187?

Nice combo! Great pics also..

Rolli, excellent post! Very imformative regarding PVD, As I agree with Clive,,, I am a pvd lover!

Now this watch I love!

Bump!

Admin, I totally understand exactly what you are saying! I think people sometimes forget how hard it is for you to keep this board running 24 hours a day. I have always been a supporter, except now I am going to "head over to the "donation button", and give back some of the money I have saved here over the last 1 1/2 years.. Anyone want to follow me for an "Extra Donation" Cheers, MM BTW, I just completed an extra $35.00 donation to help support Admin and our wonderful Forum. I hope many members follow my actions here...!

I truely think Paul will pull thru for you! Good Luck...

I would agree. I think you are better off getting this movement from one of our trusted dealers, incase you have a problem..

Simply brilliant! Love these beauties..

Excellent photography... I love these pics!

Nice pics Roy,,, What do you think of the watch?

Excellent imfo...~ Thanks Bob...

Beautiful collection!

I am sure that your dealer will do what is right. Give him or her a little time to sort things out...

Nice pics m4rcus, Amazing how wonderful Pugs Photo Tutorial helps photo newbies...(including myself) Nice shots and excellent Pams...

Welcome back Zig.. Very glad you are back. This forum is not the same without the "The Zigmeistermeister"...

Ubi, I am in definitely !

Excellent review (as usual) Thanks again!

I agree with Leitzozeiss, Helfands is a very credible source!