Wan has it right. This watch is very nice out of the box. If you run into people who wear PAM's and want people to believe it is real stay away from the H Series (no good crown guard), Super Lume it, eliminate the recessed cannon pinion and add consider replacing the crown (if not one of the better crowns). On the movement anyone who knows PAM's will automatically know it is not the gen movement - the finish just isn't there. If you are buying your first rep and none of your friends even know what a PAM is than don't bother with any of it. My first priority is always lume though. Every time you get on an elevator having been outside it makes a huge difference. Great first PAM rep.