I don't understand what must be done for people to understand and see the clear picture of this debate..
Gather all the bad experiences (POSTED and not posted by fear) by Joe and put them in a thread?
Having a full image and a percentage will clear anything?
Sorry to be arrogant on this but we, and by 'we' I mean people who are on the boards for years have read and followed the story many times.
Newer members like denise or any denise with just 1-2 positive experiences as opinions with joe just don't matter to me.
It's like the famous Paul's crazy sale.. Not many people here will understand about it and I am sure Paul (WOMART) would probably have treated new members well..
But please have some respect to older members, mods and the admin.. We know something MORE than you do.