By-Tor Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I sold my blue "Ultimate" Steelfish just recently because I was going to buy a gen. This was my old blue Fish that I loved for years. It was from TWP and it had the silver genuine ETA movement with superb PR and accuracy. TWP actually claimed that the movement received a full service by his watchmaker. He really cherry picked that watch for me because I was going to make that "big review". You can read it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchurch Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Is there a rep of the XL? and how much bigger is the XL over the smaller ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 This is XL. 44mm version. I recall the older gen model (with polished middle links) is 42mm. Don't quote me on that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliptopolis Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 This looks like a nice copy: Blue SOSF...and oh so beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Congrats on the return of one of your true loves, By-Tor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thanks man! There has been a lot of talk about the bad lume dots on the SFSO. They're MUCH improved on this new one. I try to find time to set up my photo studio and take a decent dial shot later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thanks man! There has been a lot of talk about the bad lume dots on the SFSO. They're MUCH improved on this new one. I try to find time to set up my photo studio and take a decent dial shot later. Can't wait to enjoy those pics, mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 True love never fades, no matter what color you paint it. Glad to hear you two were reunited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Glad you have this one back in the stable BT. It is a must have rep IMO and one of the nicest Divers, period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thanks D! Another wristie... mmm... Fish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Your wristie is deceiving You make this watch look smaller than it really is! But I know otherwise! This is a rather serious chunk of steel! I had given one of these a try sometime ago (though not with the ETA), only to discover that it's thick case was a bit too top heavy for my wrist. However, your fantastic pics make me think that perhaps I should give this one another go... Hmmm... Do I dare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 The SOSF is definitely a must have in any collection.. Great review as always BT.. but for you that is second nature AC/Lani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 @Ubi: Your lite version looked amazing. Great SEL fit, great dw. Yeah SFSO is a big watch but not overly big like the Super Avenger. It's listed as 44mm but it wears MUCH smaller than a 45mm PO, for example. @Lani: Thanks man... this time only 1 new photo (that was my own). I was lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amptor Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) Well, buying one with a gen ETA inside will run you somewhere north of $350 and I don't think it is worth it. I know where to get "AAA" grade ETA copy and 21j (yes I know the term AAA grade is bad but I'm sure you know what I mean.. sapphire crystal, double AR and other things). Those are sufficient. The only difference between one of those and the $350 watch is the movement and possibly the seconds hand is variant on the watches. I wouldn't spend over $200 on one with a gen ETA inside. The price is inflated on that watch. It's a replica of a watch that in gen costs ~$2500, so just personally not worth it for me (well that and the fact that a 45mm watch looks geeky on my wrist but that is beside the point). Basically it is a $80 watch with an ETA inside which should add maybe $60 to the cost. So you're spending $350+ on a $140 watch. That's quite some markup to me. Edited January 26, 2010 by amptor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 @amptor: Yeah I agree the ETA version price is too high. But it's on par with the other ETA reps these days... so what can you do. The crystal makes this watch (the double AR) which is not present on the Asian version. I wonder if it's still possible to buy the great "Lite" version that Ubi had? The new one with arrow seconds hand is garbage, it's not the same rep at all. PT verified that it comes from entirely different factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Well, buying one with a gen ETA inside will run you somewhere north of $350 and I don't think it is worth it. I know where to get "AAA" grade ETA copy and 21j (yes I know the term AAA grade is bad but I'm sure you know what I mean.. sapphire crystal, double AR and other things). Those are sufficient. The only difference between one of those and the $350 watch is the movement and possibly the seconds hand is variant on the watches. I wouldn't spend over $200 on one with a gen ETA inside. The price is inflated on that watch. It's a replica of a watch that in gen costs ~$2500, so just personally not worth it for me (well that and the fact that a 45mm watch looks geeky on my wrist but that is beside the point). Basically it is a $80 watch with an ETA inside which should add maybe $60 to the cost. So you're spending $350+ on a $140 watch. That's quite some markup to me. I don't follow. Gen ETA 2824-2's cost a lot more than $60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchurch Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I love mine... on the rubber strap. I was really down when the tube came unscrewed from the case. I have screwed it back in and been wearing it each day for the past week or so. No problems since though so I suspect it is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opti Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 So, the consensus is to stay the hell away from the arrow seconds hand model? I was just about to get one...I thought it was the latest version and had improvements...what are the major issues with it? May have to rethink this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackR Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 hmmm...the SOSF was my first rep over a year ago...and i went for the white dial "lite" version...after much reading here, i asked about the arrow versus the boxed second versions and even did the best i could to see/read the difference...i couldn't...i can't recall if i got it from Robert (PWC, T4d) or Peter (watchstation)...but at the time, i wasn't aware of the difference in factories...my arrow "lite" works and runs great...and the "lite" AR on the dial works fine with the white dial - as most white dials help with less AR coating...i'm not sure i would get a "lite" version of a darker dial as the reflection would personally drive me crazy... i have no knowledge of whether or not the arrow or boxed second versions come from diff factories...but i don't recall reading about any difference...would love to know - or see - more on this... @BT --> looks great...and i think the eta is worth it...this watch isd thinner than the Skylands and Avengers...and it wear fantastic on my 7.5" wrist... wear it well, my friend...nice to see it back on your wrist!...and dammmmmn - the SELs look great...you tried 6 pairs?!...yikes!...well done!... R- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 They actually produce many variations of this rep. Look at this one. The dealer claims that it's "same chassis as the ETA version" which isn't true. Just look at the crown. Crown is completely different on this... all wrong. The seconds hand "box" is missing the red color. Guards are shorter as well and the whole case looks different. I've seen the arrow hand versions with this crown. This has a bearable dw but I've seen these with absolutely terrible date fonts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRae Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 BT, how's the datefont on your new one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I was reminded of this thread when I opened the watchbox this morning. Steelfish on the wrist for the day. I still insist you get yourself a V3 Skyland BT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makoberry Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) My old Swissfish, probably the best rep I have ever laid my eyes on. Edited January 28, 2010 by makoberry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 @McRae: My Fish has the exact same datefont as my old one (from the 1st batch). Look at the 1st picture in my first post. It's the standard ETA font. But look at Makoberry's watch... it has perfect Breitling datefont. Mine doesn't have that. Other that that, my watch is 100% identical with his. @P4GTR: I have been thinking about the Skyland for a long time... it's a great rep but I'm not sure if I like the design. It has a polished bracelet and the watch overall looks a bit clumsy. Impressive, yes... but not as balanced and nice as the Fish. Just a personal taste thing I guess. But if I saw it in the flesh I could change my mind. But I think Skyland is very similar with Fish in design in many ways... and definitely not as nice. I doubt it'd see much wrist time if I purchased one. Fish is the only Breitling that I really, really love. One of my all time favorite watches bar none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealReplica Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Thanks for the info BT! Appreciate that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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