maxman Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 updated this thread a last week.. with pics.. looks like they were lost in the fire... Sorry to hear that my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'll post it again this afternoon if I got time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayNYC Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Saw this link over at RWI forums. I'm definitely interested in on. My 253 just recently took a hit and cracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talhah Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Hey plai Any luck with those pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Sorry guys, I've been pretty busy and am just getting back to you guys on the crystal. I originally posted this last week.. but looks like the post was deleted in the fire... Anyway I'm reposting pics of the protoype crystal .. so here's the deal: The crystal was simple to install .. quality is excellent and the sapphire crystal is twice as clear as mineral. It has nice inner AR. THE PROBLEM: the prototype is not tall enough, the dome is less pronounced. I have contacted the factory to see if you can correct the problem. If they can't .. then I fear we may be seeing the end of this dream! : ( This just proves Murphy's law. Anyways.. I've contacted the factory and I'm going to try to install it on another PAM253 of a friend of mine here in madrid.. If it's just as short on his watch then it means they didn't get the dimensions right. Here are some pictures. Sapphire prototype on right: Sapphire on right.. AR makes a slight difference The crystal's edge needs to be thicker... Sapphire on right again: Mineral thickness: Sapphire prototype thickness: Sapphire prototype profile on watch: Mineral profile on watch: prototype installed faceshot: In summary, the prototype should be thicker at the edges. Keep you updated on the issue. Sorry I couldn't be the bearer of better news ... Hopefully it will get resolved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 That saphire crystal sure looks nice,to bad about the thickness Issue Reguradless of the outcome,thank you for giving It your best. Who knows? maybe things still might work out,thanks again Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talhah Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thanks Plai. Superb effort. Let's hope this works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCrown Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Big Crown (myself) and Big E, have been working on this crystal for months. Ours will be ready in 3 weeks. Big-E is collecting pre-orders now. They will be 1:1 with faint, near colorless AR. -Crown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Big Crown (myself) and Big E, have been working on this crystal for months. Ours will be ready in 3 weeks. Big-E is collecting pre-orders now. They will be 1:1 with faint, near colorless AR. -Crown Wish you had contacted me ALOT earlier Big... I've been working on this project for a year almost(you'll notice the date on the original post)... an still no good results. Pricepoint is crucial for me.. and first estimates from the first few factories were ridiculous. This crystal is only a prototype.. getting the egde thickness right and it should be perfect. I guess the race is on to see who gets it first! If my factory can get a better version produced I'm hoping that your crystal project doesn't take away too many interested folks on this thread.... The pricing on my crystal depends directly on how many interested folks we have. If 50% get your crystal, then I'm afraid I'll probably have to abandon my project p.s. your crystal is 1:1 with the gen crystal? Have you fitted a gen crystal to a 253 yet? If so, which version. My crystal is mae from a mineral sample... an SHOULD have come out 1:1.. but looks like the factory f-ed the prototype edge height. Not sure that V1 crystals will be candidates. The V2, V3/V4 and new V5(i THINK V5) should be perfect matches for my crystal.. Still haven't had anyone take out a new V5 crystal for me and measure it with calipers.... Edited January 17, 2011 by plaifender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 [quote name='plaifender' timestamp='1295302676' If my factory can get a better version produced I'm hoping that your crystal project doesn't take away too many interested folks on this thread.... The pricing on my crystal depends directly on how many interested folks we have. If 50% get your crystal, then I'm afraid I'll probably have to abandon my project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supremej Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Great^^* LOL~~!!! Buy & Swap to My 212 um..Sorry~! How much..??( i'm short english..; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md.ng Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) I'm in for 1 too! 1. Valerian 2. petem (2 crystals) 3. BigE 4. Chudd 5. Paulw 6. Repwatch 7. Bosk 8. Nakortheblue 9. Rickhic 10. Z3k0 (2 crystals) 11. panerisiti(2) 12. jcrry (2 or 3 crystals) 13. Pabler 14. Lanikai (2 or more crystals) 15. Sidedish 16. cbd21(2) 17. Slan93 18. Cchrono 19. Deniz21 20. Bynico92 21. Ewing 22. Kioske 23. Jimmynugent 24. Fishgodeep(2 crystals) 25. Suzuki 26. Cdigi 27. Mann 28. Colorao 29. Fitipaldi 30. opcrown 31. btocamelo 32. PrDubis 33. Yousif1980 34. Psycho 35. Rytox 36. Maars 37. burrppp 38. 4fun 39. goin6633 40. Maxman 41. Tallah 42. Whacky 43. Notsobreit 44. EMM 45.ironpumper 46. lasync 47. j4jure 48. Bigmarcelo 49. malfa 50. r_squared (2 x crystals) 51. toddy2 52. kuli 53. cskent69 54. 4000ft 55. -=MarK=- [2 x crystals 253] 56. Jkarpas 57. Nix 58. Hongkytonkman 59. deja (x2) 60. MD.NG Edited January 22, 2012 by MD.NG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 oops.. Thread update... This project has fallen through! (about 9 months ago officially). Factory was not trustworthy and could not return my sample crystal that was supplied to create the prototype. Someone said that Taka was planning on fabricating a sapphire version of this crystal... I'll probably just go that route if that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackpack Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I hope someone pulls though! I've wanted a 212 sapphire since the new batch came out last year. So far there has been multiple attempts but no one has been able to pull it off I heard a rumor that taka might make one too, dont remember who wrote that. Maybe if we're lucky some one like Noob will release a model with a domed sapphire that I can cannibalize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I just dont see why the fatories dont make these...they have the know how Im sure. They would have many many orders for these Flyback/Regatta Pams. Or am I missing something here ..Is the domed saphire crystal to difficult to make? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Big E and BigCrown (i think that's who was heading up a simultaneous project when mine was in the works), gave an explanation of the difference between making domed sapphire and domed mineral crystal, and the fabrication process is drastically different. The know how should definitely be there.. but I think the factories would have to find it economically viable to create. At this point I guess there's not enough buzz on the forums about this issue.... If there were, I there were, I think we'd have seen one at least 3-5 years when these regattas started gaining popularity. To be honest.. i think they just like making us wait.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabler Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 But they manufacture the 47mm version in sapphire, why not the 44mm? Is it so different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackpack Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I remember reading that the domed sapphire was very difficult to cut and the Chinese failior rate was 4 in 5. but now with the noob being successful hopefully we will get out 44mm crystals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md.ng Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thanks for the update anyway. I was already looking forward to it, but i guess i'll have to keep hoping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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