offshore Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I had what I thought was a big win on ebay yesterday. http://cgi.ebay.com....IT#ht_500wt_947 Have just received contact from the seller, and he wants out of the deal. Mr. XXX, I see you won the bid however because of a misunderstanding on my part with theebay process I cannot sell you the watches for $78. The watches are 18k goldand stainless steel with a combined retail (US) of over $4000. The buy it nowprice was $900. I recently paid over $250 to have the mens watch reconditionedat the factory in Switzerland. Please accept my deep apologies for anymisunderstanding. Ebay would allow me to alter the price or cancel the auctionthis morning at I attempted to do. Again, please accept my sincere apology. So what does the membership think? Do I gracefully walk away, or make a prick of myself.?? I fully realised something wasn't right...I actually can't believe it slipped under the radar like this. Maybe everyone was scared because they were too cheap! I can't register anything with ebay for 10 days, and hold little hope of forcing the seller to a deal. Maybe easier to cut the losses? Offshore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegrasser Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 A "No Reserve is a No Reserve". I think he is obligated to ship them to you. They don't look like a design that would be popular and attract a lot of bids. He screwed himself. Be Ruthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrmindalliance Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Hmmm... tough call. Accepting his apology graciously would be the 'nice guy' thing to do - but you know what they say about nice guys. And you did win it fair and square by the rules of the auction. Obviously there's no info in my post that you don't know. So I reckon go for it. Mind you, if I was seller who made this kind of error I'd be pulling out all stops (legal or not) to not hand them over and the seller may well have the same opinion. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I'd say go for it... but then again, I can be a real d1ck sometimes The seller has only 2 feedbacks from buys not sells, so I'd be treading carefully on this one... could be the lead-in to a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Well, look at it this way.. he will NEVER ship anything to you... And you should not pay anything above what you bidded for those items despite what he says. Leave it up to Ebay, he'll get banned and return with another userid since his reputation is not impt seeing he only has 2 feedbacks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I would try to get them, have you contacted ebay, not that they are much help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signumboy Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 you can fight this one all the way, but............... you are never in a million years going to receive these watches, He aint gonna give them away. And who's going to make him? Annoying but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 you can fight this one all the way, but............... you are never in a million years going to receive these watches, He aint gonna give them away. And who's going to make him? Annoying but true. Yeh I totally agree....sort of makes a nonsense of ebay and auctions though. Maybe I should just send a bill for my time lost watching this one Offshore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Not being vindictive but you should inform ebay of this and pretend to insist that the seller fulfills his part of the sale. Not that you will get your items but at least this guy doesn't go round doing this again soon cos hopefully ebay does something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulanito_uk Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Like gtanak says you'll never get them anyway... so why bother wasting your precious time, you could send him an angry e-mail if that makes you feel better. Bottom line you'll never get them who ever you complain to, Good luck what ever you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Again, i'm not being vindictive or malicious... but since you're such a nice guy.. why don't you post his email (or PM) to us and we will ALL write angry emails to this wuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I would simply report him and move on. I can tell you from my own experience that there is no retribution on ebay. It is the ultimate buyer beware. But then again you went with a guy with 2 feedback and at least you never paid him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightight Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Legally he's in the wrong, but he's got nothing to lose but his User ID. Very wrong, but chasing it down would be like flogging a dead horse, totally pointless. You have to feel sorry for someone who, through ignorance, makes a mistake like this though, can you imagine how he felt when he realised.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signumboy Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I got scammed on a tag carrera on ebay . ebay did pay up but it took 6 weeks yet the guy is still registerd on ebay. I'm not certain if ebay got the money back from him . I doubt it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaifender Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 If he's already expressed that he'd like to cancel the sale, what makes you think he will ship you the watches? He doesn't appear to be a heavy ebay user and if his account is frozen or he is punished by ebay in some way or another he might not care. I'd let it go, and encourage him to put them up for auction again with a reserve price. But that's just my .02cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDG Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I've had the same thing. Bought 21 watchmaking tools for 21 cents. Then the seller wanted to charge me 240 dollars shipping At the end he never replied, I got 21 warnings for not paying, but the dispute was closed after a short email to ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 If he's already expressed that he'd like to cancel the sale, what makes you think he will ship you the watches? He doesn't appear to be a heavy ebay user and if his account is frozen or he is punished by ebay in some way or another he might not care. I'd let it go, and encourage him to put them up for auction again with a reserve price. But that's just my .02cents Oh I don't think he will ever ship them. If however the objection that I haven't paid is used, I'll pay via CC, then challenge him to ship! He is however bound by his contract with Ebay, so he may have 2nd thoughts, especially if he receives a legal demand....(I happen to have a barrister who is a family friend who does my work free! ) Haven't finally decided which way to jump...but I'm thinking it really is too much hassle. O/S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtanak Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 .(I happen to have a barrister who is a family friend who does my work free! ) Remind me not to owe you money A... there's nothing worse to be up against than NO legal cost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 If it seems too good to be true...... Report him, give negative feedback, and be done with him. In my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchurch Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I'd start off thanking him for his email. Then I would let him know that even though you understand his problem you placed a legal binding bid for an item that was listed by him/her. And that while you can not back out from your legally binding bid the seller is always within his rights to end an unfinished auction at anytime and the seller can also cancel any bids placed on an auction for any reason as long as the auction has not finished. Then I would let him know that there are exceptions to legally binding on ebay and that if the item has a reserve set and the reserve was not met it is no longer legally binding. After stating those things I would let him know that I would be interested in a solution to his problem; he could pay you 50$ (some random number) and you could both walk away from the deal or he could fulfill his obligation set in the terms of service/rules on eBay and sell you the watches for the amount specified or he could ignore your request and face the repercussions from eBay and you for failing to provide products bought with a legally binding agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Blokes got 2 on his feedback...he wont be worried about losing that. If you are happy with him as a seller and you really want the watches and are willing to pay more, why not offer a comprimise price thru Ebay arbitration. If not then walk away he wont worry about recourse if you pay and he dont send...which he wont !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I hate being a jerk, but I also do not like getting taken by 1. So I would send him a polite email asking what he feels would be an equitable amount (for both of you), considering that the mistake was his & you won the watches fairly? Then, you can either accept his offer, make a counteroffer or register a formal complaint with ebay &/or Paypal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipSlap Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I hate being a jerk, but I also do not like getting taken by 1. So I would send him a polite email asking what he feels would be an equitable amount (for both of you), considering that the mistake was his & you won the watches fairly? Then, you can either accept his offer, make a counteroffer or register a formal complaint with ebay &/or Paypal. +1 This gives you a chance to not be a [censored] before being a [censored]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegrasser Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 (edited) I said be Ruthless and I meant it. Write to his local hospital with a general question that they are likely to respond to. You will then have the Hospital Letterhead. Then simply use the Letterhead to inform him that he has aquired AIDS. Our enemies come in all forms, shapes and sizes. We must not allow them to stand to harm us again in the future. Enjoy your revenge or risk that it will forever haunt you, that you did not take it when you could. They don't call me the "Jesus of Lakeland" for nothing. I am wise beyond my years... George Edited June 19, 2010 by georgegrasser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 (edited) Forget it and move on. Edited June 20, 2010 by fakemaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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