Jump to content
When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission.
  • Current Donation Goals

Tudor Snowflake Decal - Final Revision


jmb

Recommended Posts

I think I have the artwork finished so that I can actually read everything on the dial - even the T SWISS T at the bottom! I am soliciting feedback as to the dials accuracy and layout from those in the know. It should be very close as I made a tracing of a gen pic.

The black looks rather washed out and other flaws but I think a lot of this is due to printing it on a "peel 'n' stick" material and the water-slide decal should be much crisper. I can only imagine what this would look like at 1200 or 2400 dpi! Unfortunately while printing white I can only get 600 dpi out of this printer.

But, still, this is only a decal and there is no way it would ever be able to withstand close scrutiny. I think it could be helped immensely if the lettering was "went over" with white paint (a dot at a time) by someone with an extremely steady hand and a good 'scope. This opens up a whole new world of possibilities due to widely varying dial and case sizes. I was going to show this one in a Sub case but it's to large but it would be fairly simple to turn a brass blank the proper diameter and scale the dial graphic accordingly.

post-24124-0-97186600-1311727143.jpg

post-24124-0-16386100-1311727156.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just noticed something which hadn't occurred to me before... You said you were actually printing white ink... On the ones Slartibartfast produced, they were black onto transparent decal, with the 'white areas' simply sans ink entirely. Might a similar printing procedure produce slightly different results to where you've literally printed black and white ink? :g: As on the other thread, I think a yellow dial with black writing would look really sharp (best do Doxa orange as well, to keep Nanuq happy ;) ) Other than that, I can't see any other detail differences to change :good:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The problem I am having is that to print in white I have to print at 600 dpi plus I'm printing onto clear vinyl peel 'n' stick material. I should get some regular waterslide decal material next week and I can make a decision.

Worse come to worse I can re-do the artwork as a negative and go the two decal method ala slarti. This would, however, probably need someone else doing the printing as I don't have anything with high enough resolution. I bought this printer (to specifically do projects like this) on advertised specs and they don't tell the whole truth.

I'll have to see how the minute "tics" look on the decal paper as I think I have the line weight set as light as Acad has a selection for but it's just the minimum dot size of the printer make's 'em print fatter...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

An additional detail, the "S" in SUBMARINER should look like a backwards "Z".

Looking good but you need to back way off on the "weight" of the fonts and minute tics.

Check the font sizes too. The "R" in "TUDOR" should end its tail between the letters "N" and "C" in "PRINCE".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The problem I am having is that to print in white I have to print at 600 dpi plus I'm printing onto clear vinyl peel 'n' stick material. I should get some regular waterslide decal material next week and I can make a decision.

Worse come to worse I can re-do the artwork as a negative and go the two decal method ala slarti. This would, however, probably need someone else doing the printing as I don't have anything with high enough resolution. I bought this printer (to specifically do projects like this) on advertised specs and they don't tell the whole truth.

I'll have to see how the minute "tics" look on the decal paper as I think I have the line weight set as light as Acad has a selection for but it's just the minimum dot size of the printer make's 'em print fatter...

How about if you were to just print in black, and leave the text and markers blank? Would that allow better resolution?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nanuq - I made the requested changes, I'm glad some of you guys have an eye for minute details like this - I don't!

I'm going to print out another dial on clear and see how it looks!

TeeJay - I would need to do it on a different printer as this old Alps (they have not been made for quite a while) does not do very well on large solid black area fills as sometimes "banding" is present. I am going to maybe give it a whirl, though...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A dimension of further interest just occurred as I was reading this topic.

Decals can make perfect dials, especially perhaps if relumed in an old skool way on top of the decal. However is not made to industrial standards - and because a photograph always fades (even fixated ones?) - maybe our decal dials age faster and become even better looking over time? Just a thought, and if we are lucky this kind of dial projects can go from great to greater over time!

Thoughts or experiences with this?

mg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Good job J.

I'm looking into having a few sheets of dial decals professionally printed. I (prolly) know someone who'll be willing to do so - anyone here with a good template that I can use as a trial dial?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have the artwork finalized for this particular decal and I think once I get some decal stock my printer likes it might be a go. There are zig-zaggy lines through some of the markers (printer issue) but they will be covered by the lume. I also misplaced my squeegee so it also has some bubbles under it but I think this might me turned into a "real" dial...

I have ordered some different decal paper so we shall see what happens. This printed like crap the first time so I took a half sheet of the paper, sprayed it with Dull Cote, then printed and the print was much better. If I print this on clear acetate it is razor sharp.

post-24124-0-83575700-1312425373.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is a decal made with the same artwork but as a "negative" and the dial blank painted white. This is with my new 1200 x 6000 dpi printer but the "black" ink leaves a lot to be desired. But, this does look like something that has had a lot of sun and weather exposure so maybe it's perfectly "vintagized"?

post-24124-0-54453000-1312425812.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

looks pretty decent JMB. The lines are not from the printer jets saturating? The end result is pretty decent, considering that you only see it in areas that will be lumed. I like it. Maybe do a test print using a photo printer on high grade photo paper to see how it comes out and isolate the issue to a particular printer, or the image itself. This is great progress.

E

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Alps MD printers actually melt resin from a ribbon onto the printed surface. It's my fear that the zig-zag is trying to tell me something is going wrong with the printhead, who knows... I printed some "negative" decals and it was there, too. Funny thing, though, with the same identical printer settings I get a perfect image on clear acetate but that wouldn't make much of a dial.

Here are two printed on the plastic, absolutely perfect...

post-24124-0-61523200-1312494153.jpg

post-24124-0-12358800-1312494168.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is awesome.You can just paint the backside with flat black and call it good. ;)

Of course, one can always get one of those fancy movements and slap that in. I think the acetate with back side painted flat black will not look bad and it will add a depth to the dial that the originals never had.

On a different topic, JMB, did you get my PM about the crystal retainer?

E

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...
Please Sign In or Sign Up