cht Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Well, I had just bought this and found the bezel would not rotate. It was glued in place. Pbdad had his watchmaker switch the bezel insert for the previous owner and he knows nothing about it. This was originally a BK noob GMT. The previous owner has been willing to help make this right, the problem is, what needs to be done to fix it? Any help would be largely appreciated! This is what was there when I opened it. Glue cleaned off to a certain extent It looks like the retaining ring is still stuck to the rotating portion of the bezel assemlby. would the spring be in there? If I try and put it back together, it will not stay on, it just falls off. ] Edited August 31, 2011 by cht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 There should be a "click ring" between it and the case and it looks like the octagon/paper-clip spring is MIA - that's why it falls off and probably why it was glued on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Maybe I'm way off base but looking closer there are no "teeth" on the bottom of the bezel to make it click so I have no idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 That's what I was thinking, it also has that hole on top side of case. Hmmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Normally those two holes are locators for the tabs that stick down out of the little sheet-metal "click-ring" but the bezel has no teeth on the bottom so the case probably "serves" more than one style of construction. But, the bezel looks like it has a groove for the octo-spring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 This is a modded Rep 16610 Silix style case if you ask me. The way it is converted to bi-directional is to grind the teeth off and remove the click components. This looks like it should use the wire tension system that clips into the bezel, and rides in a grovve in the case. This is not a regular tension ring setup. My guess is a former owner had problems with the wire system, and just glued it. In theory, if you had the wire, you could make it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utheman Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I agree with Ronin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I have a BK GMT II and Ronin is right. A BK GMT II doesn't click when you rotate it. Carpe Diem Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cht Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 so this is not a noob gmt bk model? I didn't know that the bk ones didn't click. Thanks for all the info guys, you're awesome! Any idea where I could get the click spring/wire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Just shoot a PM to BK . My experience with him is that he is very helpful. Carpe Diem Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cht Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thx, already did, waiting for his input too. Such a nice watch, hope it can be fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ispytonyv Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Hey guys, I'll chime in as I was the previous owner... I bought this watch here on RWG, this is the original sales thread (just managed to dig it up today). It was sold as needing service but no mention of bezel issues, and several members including those that own BK noob GMTs seemed to think it was legit. I'm pretty sure I had the seller ship directly to PBdad, who I've worked with before and who was going to handle the service as well as swap the original black insert to Pepsi for me. I don't try ANY mods myself, leave that stuff to the pros. PB sent the watch off for service, and he himself swapped the insert (not sure in which order though). At the time he made no mention of the glue etc., but maybe he wouldn't have noticed? I honestly know very little about the bezel construction. Sorry, I know that doesn't help much, but it's all the info I've got... and as mentioned in the OP, I've been in contact with the buyer, and PB, trying to sort this out. Edited August 31, 2011 by ispytonyv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 As others have said, the octagon clip is missing and that's what holds the bezel to the case. No clicks and spins smoothly both ways. Hopefully, BK can dig one up for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiadeCuba Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 i dont think bk will be able to source a click spring. many bk transformer owners wanted to convert back to a click bezel and was not able to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 If this was his normal transformer, there should have been two complete bezel assemblies, sounds like one is missing? I would not be surprised if BK has a spare bezel with the aforementioned octagon wire installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 The octagon spring is easy enough to fabricate. I've made several out of guitar strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cht Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 ^^^^thanks everyone and the seller, everyone has been more than helpful! BK will make a new retaining wire for it. Thanks BK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 The octagon spring is easy enough to fabricate. I've made several out of guitar strings. Care to show me? I have a messed up one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 If this was his normal transformer, there should have been two complete bezel assemblies, sounds like one is missing? I would not be surprised if BK has a spare bezel with the aforementioned octagon wire installed. Nope! I contacted him several months ago as I wanted a 3rd bezel for the Coke insert. No luck! I decided to abandon the black insert since I have enough black watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Care to show me? I have a messed up one. What's to show? I don't understand. I cut about 6 inches off of the end of a B string, take a set of pliers and bend it until it looks like one of those octagon springs, and test-fit it. If it doesn't work I keep playing with it until it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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