the_rymeister Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I think it will be very interesting to compare the case with a BK / WM9 v2 or v3 Just shoot me a PM if you want me to take some photos of mine for comparison side by side (v3 with gen crystal, crown, tube, pearl) I'd be interestd in that comparison. I want to get a good sub rep and it looks like its between one of these and a bk Tw best, but only thing pulling me more towards bks is the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I think it will be very interesting to compare the case with a BK / WM9 v2 or v3 Just shoot me a PM if you want me to take some photos of mine for comparison side by side (v3 with gen crystal, crown, tube, pearl) So most difference on Sean's Case is the Bezel and Crown position. It takes a gen Movement. That needs no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 So most difference on Sean's Case is the Bezel and Crown position. It takes a gen Movement. That needs no comparison. ha ha Tribal is on the trip again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) ha ha Tribal is on the trip again Haha maybe it's time for a new Sub After waiting for a good SD that sucks,this is something interesting. Edited January 7, 2012 by Tribal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valty Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 That needs no comparison. ...except for the end-user who don't really care about the movement in. A fake chinese copy of Rolex mov., or a fake chinese or swiss eta ? Who cares if the crown/tube position is good not so bad ? I think you will never put a $$$ gen 3135 into it, so the "it takes gen movement" is not really an argument And, sorry if comparison between two "good" fakes sounds weird to you - to me, it doesn't at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 ...except for the end-user who don't really care about the movement in. A fake chinese copy of Rolex mov., or a fake chinese or swiss eta ? Who cares if the crown/tube position is good not so bad ? I think you will never put a $$$ gen 3135 into it, so the "it takes gen movement" is not really an argument And, sorry if comparison between two "good" fakes sounds weird to you - to me, it doesn't at all No offense here, I talked only about the case. The Bezel finish ( more defined) is better than on WM9 and TW. Crown height is like gen also better. CG's are similar to WM9 and TW. Hope this helps ...except for the end-user who don't really care about the movement in. A fake chinese copy of Rolex mov., or a fake chinese or swiss eta ? Who cares if the crown/tube position is good not so bad ? I think you will never put a $$$ gen 3135 into it, so the "it takes gen movement" is not really an argument And, sorry if comparison between two "good" fakes sounds weird to you - to me, it doesn't at all No offense here, I talked only about the case. The Bezel finish ( more defined) is better than on WM9 and TW. Crown height is like gen also better. CG's are similar to WM9 and TW. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 As I said, I have a similar build going on. Seans case has some issues. biggest are the engravings are incorrect. 16610 no 16610T, and the serial is a late M serial which is inconsistant with a non rehaut engraved m serial. anyway, I weighed buying the rep 3135, and decided on a 2892 with a stilty spacer and gen date wheel. I needed to know that I would never have issues with the movement, and by using a gen swiss movement, I think I have that. the bracelet you show is very similar to mine, mine had zero gap at the lugs, but the back of the SEL had the same weird lip as yours. I need to contact TC about his bracelet. it looks closer to gen than any other ive seen. your build is so amazing. throw a nato on it and no one could call you in it. thanks for sharing your build. its members like you that make this place so great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valty Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 No offense here, No problem We are just comparing opinions Crown height is like gen also better. CG's are similar to WM9 and TW. Personally, I do not see so much difference about crown height. It's maybe my eyes... But talking about the CG's, the Sean case looks better. BK/WM9 quality about CG's seems to not be constant (on the maybe 10 I've seen for sell these last months), and the CG's on the Sean case seems (again, to me) better finished. The crown looks better positioned into the CG's also on the Sean case. It's just a feeling, but - IMHO - a close comparison will be great for the entire community (who have the best sub bla bla etc. You know the song ) R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) So here are my WM9 Hybrid Sub for comparsion.. V2 Case with Eta 2824 high pinions Gen Insert Gen Tube and Crown Gen Crystal Reshaped case by me <acronym title="Crown Guard">CG</acronym>'s reworked Retainer reworked Wm9 Dial with Bk SL Indicies BK datewheel SL Hands Reshaped SEL`s by me WM9 clasp The Insert is shaped to fit und I'm lucky at clips in. All Mods done by myself Forgive dust and scratches this is my daily beater Edited January 7, 2012 by Tribal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Seans case has some issues. biggest are the engravings are incorrect. 16610 no 16610T, and the serial is a late M serial which is inconsistant with a non rehaut engraved m serial. it was my understanding that the Ms could not have engraved rehauts and the numbers were arbitrary and not chronological, which is why its impossible to date the production of any particular M serial sub. e.g an M5xxxxxxx could very well come before an M1xxxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 From what ive researched, only early m serials had NO engravings on the by early I mean the first ones with m serials. I thought the majority of m serials had the engraving. I have pics somewhere of a m serial without engravings, but they were hard to find. I didn't know all m serials were random, I just assumed it was the ones engraved on the rehauts. To me it doesn't totally matter since if someone is going to check serial numbers they are going to open the case back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w.genzo Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Very nice sub, congratulations;) The case is very good, probably the best so far, but it has the same old issue with the SELs. They are wider and longer than gen. I guess that a noob bracelet (with etaswiss clasp which is stunning) would fit better having endlinks a bit wider than 20mm. Too bad SA3135 doesn't accept gen hands, hope they fix it soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I don't like noob end links at all. OK, they are correct in their dimensions but nothing near the genuine article in the way they are designed or manufactured. Quality is shitty, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w.genzo Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I agree on the sh*tty finish;) Btw I still don't understand it the lugs are too wide or the bracelet endlinks are too narrow. I've tried to fit a noob bracelet on a gen case and it didn't fit because my noob SELs were 20.2-20.3mm while on a etaswiss case it seems to fit properly, so I believed it was a etaswiss case issue.. Did you try a gen bracelet on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I tried Noob end links in the meantime. They are too wide and cannot be used on my case. The lug distance on my case is 20.05 to 20.1 on both sides. The bracelet that comes with the case is 19.9 on top and 20.05 on the bottom. That is what I meant with bad finishing on the ETAswiss bracelet. You can see that it was a lot bigger before it got brushed and now tapers down from 20.05 where it is not brushed to 19.9 I don't have a gen bracelet with SEL to try it. Here are some test pics with an old TW Best end link that is exactly 20.00. Unfortunately it does not fit the case because of the pin size and position. But it makes clear: All I need is a bracelet that is exactly 20.00 to make this the best Sub I ever had. I think member Eiderdaus already tried a gen bracelet on his Sean case and reported good fit and looks. Actually I am thinking about buying a gen 93250 for this watch. Would be expensive but maybe worth the money. With the case being somewhere around 20.08 it should look nice with a gen bracelet being exactly 20.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJack Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 chefcook, sent you a PM about your build, hope you have time to reply. Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 If the noob SELs are too wide you can easily grind them back with an oil stone (like used for knife or chisel sharpening. This will give a nice crisp edge too. It takes a little time to do this without rounding off the ends but it's quite easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted January 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 But that still does not solve the problem that noob endlinks are wrong in every other aspect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabularasa415 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Agreed on noob endlinks... It's ana amazing build. I would love to compare side-by-side with my TW best sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giobo Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I agree with the noob bracelet quality..But the end links look better on it than the TW one's on my TW...They simply fit better and the lugs are more out and gen like..Of course the finish and brushing needs work,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolchu001 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 awesome super franken, just needs better SEL and you're set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 What a great build! I'm half way through basically the same build so it's really nice to see some inspiration! Can you still source some hands? The "gen superluminova" hands I picked up are weaker then the hands that came with the sean case so I think I need to go a different route... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 are you using a gen movement or ETA? I am using BK's SL hands on my build. great hands at a great price from an amazing seller! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Neither genuine nor ETA. I bought one of Angus (Puretime) SA3135 Submariners as a donor for movement which runs great by the way... This is how it would look like with a noob end link ground down to 20.17mm. Had to shave off roughly 5/100 mm of the noob end link which took only a couple of minutes. That would already be a very acceptable result for my own end link project (the fit of the end links, not the end link itself...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 whats odd is my noob bracelet, a TTK original, is 20mm, so there is a tiny tiny tiny gap. The mid link shape is still wrong, but its a better bracelet than the sean case. Did you SL the dial from the SA3135? I am thinking of building a LV next based off the sa3135, and just trying to project costs. I cant wait for your endlink project. it is just what these need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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