alligoat Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Phong does engraving- JAW- jewelryandwatch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I bought one. Let's see what it looks like in real life and how it fits. I wonder if that assembly would fit the 16610 case Who does engraving again? nope - will not fit - but maybe can cut the costs for some 1675 projects - the have all the parts for the modern Sub bezel assembly - just the normal steel bezel ring is missing - should be no prob find one on ebay.... cheers, Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Great post, thanks Stilty! Here's my StarTime build. I was rather underwhelmed with the case overall but man, those lugholes are freakin sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I think the case could be quite nice if you would bevel the lug edges. IMO that is all that is missing for a very good looking watch. See how pronounced the bevel on the lugs are: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 So for those that did purchase the case and parts, what exactly did you purchase from them for the build and how was the overall fit? I think I will build a 16800 using their parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ueno Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 crown position and guards Here is a lug hole shot Here is a side shot sterile between the lugs some shots of the back Hi there I really like the sub you built. It looks great. How much have you spent on the project? if you don't mind me asking. I am interested in doing one. Btw I own a datejust that you built and used to own. Wow I must say, your work is just amazing sir. Please let me know when you get a chance. I tried to pm you, but could not. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I bought one. Let's see what it looks like in real life and how it fits. Ephry, let me know or show us how it fits. If it fits right and looks good I want to order a few 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Will do. I also Purchased their vintage sub bezel assembly to try. We shall see how Good it fits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 No to hijack the tread, the vintage bezel assembly is not very good. Needs a lot of polishing and fiddling. Also, their insert DOES NOT fit their own T19 crystal, or a gen, or Clark's. Now I wonder about they 16610 case I never received from them. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 How does this case compare to the TC case? Also does the 3135 version of the case come with or without lug holes? Are these cases closer to a gen 16610 case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 No to hijack the tread, the vintage bezel assembly is not very good. Needs a lot of polishing and fiddling. Also, their insert DOES NOT fit their own T19 crystal, or a gen, or Clark's. Now I wonder about they 16610 case I never received from them. E just like WSO How does this case compare to the TC case? Also does the 3135 version of the case come with or without lug holes? Are these cases closer to a gen 16610 case? no. stick with the TC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 The ST crystal ring is a [censored] to press in. Gen gasket, Clark's or their (ST) still no go. Hh, I still have to get to you about the other case btw. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I read a bit about others who have purchased the star time replacement 16610 case. I bought one a while ago. Fairly inexpensive. $160 if I remember correctly. You get a discount if you order online as opposed to calling in an order. I threw on a gen bezel assembly and clarks crystal. also used a gen dial, gen date disc powered by an ETA 2892-A2. I used my ETA 2982-A2 to 3135 movement holder. Everything fits perfectly. Case is sterile, so no markings, but that doesn't mean anything to me. Here are some quick n dirty pics that I took with my phone. I only cropped and resized them. Here is a face shot showing the rehaut. crown position and guards Here is a lug hole shot Here is a side shot sterile between the lugs I fit a 78360 w/ 580 hoods, and they fit perfectly. I don't have a spare 93150, otherwise I would have installed one and took some pics. But what I really like, is how perfect the lug holes are. Bracelet snapped in no problem. Unlike other cases like Phong, Yuki, etc, I have always found fitting a bracelet a chore. This case is perfect in that regard. Definitely not a keeper. Lugs look a bit chunky to me. Eventually, I'll probably just use this for a sterile watch. I have a cool MKII dial, that I bought, when he was still selling parts. I'll probably just install it on a 2824-2 with black date disc, install an aftermarket bezel, or maybe find a nice fixed bezel. Remove the cyclops, or maybe install an acrylic crystal. I have a sterile crown as well that I will use. I wanted to ask you Stilty about the choice for the 2892 movement. How did you use the Gen date wheel on there? how was the stem height/angle say compared to a 2824? Thanks for sharing. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I wanted to ask you Stilty about the choice for the 2892 movement. How did you use the Gen date wheel on there? how was the stem height/angle say compared to a 2824? Thanks for sharing. E 2892-A2 is my "go-to" movement for any 3135 case. Especially since I prefer to use genuine date discs as overlays. I have my own movement holders that take care of stem alignment, securing the movement in the case, as well as offering a seat to glue the dial to. As for stem position in the 2892-A2, center stem to dial seat on the 2892-A2 is 1.50mm. On the Rolex 3135, the stem position from center stem to dial seat is 1.75. So basically you have 0.25mm of extra space between the 2892-A2 and back of dial when fit in a 3135 case. The genuine date disc is 0.20mm thick, so you can easily glue one to the ETA date disc and have no problems with date operation. My movement holder is made to provide the gap between the 2892-A2 and back of dial. The ETA 2824-2 stem position is 1.80mm from center stem to dial seat, so when fitting in a Rolex 3135 case, the stem will be 0.05mm out of perfect alignment with the case tube. This makes it tricky to fit an overlay as well. I have used 2824-2 in 3135 cases, I usually sand the back of the dial (if feet are clipped) in order to perfectly align the stem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 2892-A2 is my "go-to" movement for any 3135 case. Especially since I prefer to use genuine date discs as overlays. I have my own movement holders that take care of stem alignment, securing the movement in the case, as well as offering a seat to glue the dial to. As for stem position in the 2892-A2, center stem to dial seat on the 2892-A2 is 1.50mm. On the Rolex 3135, the stem position from center stem to dial seat is 1.75. So basically you have 0.25mm of extra space between the 2892-A2 and back of dial when fit in a 3135 case. The genuine date disc is 0.20mm thick, so you can easily glue one to the ETA date disc and have no problems with date operation. My movement holder is made to provide the gap between the 2892-A2 and back of dial. The ETA 2824-2 stem position is 1.80mm from center stem to dial seat, so when fitting in a Rolex 3135 case, the stem will be 0.05mm out of perfect alignment with the case tube. This makes it tricky to fit an overlay as well. I have used 2824-2 in 3135 cases, I usually sand the back of the dial (if feet are clipped) in order to perfectly align the stem. Quick and great reply. I guess I'm ok with the 3035 case and a 2836-2 movement then. Checking out the specs for the 3035 and the 2836-2 are similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Yes, for the 3035 case, 2836-2 if fine, but I tend to use 2824-2 in the 3035 cases. For the same reasons as stated above. I can use a genuine date disc as an overlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Ok brother, PM me the trick for the gen DD on a 2824. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 No real trick. Just the same as installing any other overlay. it is just that with the extra space between the movement and dial, you can use a genuine disc as an overlay. Check out this post I wrote a few years ago. (unfortunately, I never did get around to Pt II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Thanks man. SOOOO simple. I may have a few 2836 DWs around. Just need to get a gen DW and try it out. Will have to wait. E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Thanks man. SOOOO simple. I may have a few 2836 DWs around. Just need to get a gen DW and try it out. Will have to wait. E That DW was a bugger to find. The gen 3035 progressed opposite of the eta mvts. You'll need a gen 3055 or 3135 to use with an eta But it seems some of the reps offered with open 6's and 9's are comming centered. Perhaps ask sneed12 about these. Edited August 9, 2012 by correctime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) GREAT looking build Stilty. Do you still have it Brother. Tried to PM you but your box must be full. Edited August 9, 2012 by correctime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasdoc Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Stilty, I need some movement holders for putting a 2824 into a 16000 case. Your PM box is full. Can you shoot me a PM? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 A gen eta 2836-2 fits perfect in that case. With a raffles ring. I'm very upset because after reshaping the lugs and fitting the TC v3 perfectly. The Clark's bezel pops off the insert. Same thing with a gen. 90% done! But couldn't take it on the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 A gen eta 2836-2 fits perfect in that case. With a raffles ring. I'm very upset because after reshaping the lugs and fitting the TC v3 perfectly. The Clark's bezel pops off the insert. Same thing with a gen. 90% done! But couldn't take it on the trip. The Clark bezel I had popped off the insert on me too....the retainig ring needed shortened a good bit so I didn't keep it. You're saying a gen bezel assembly pops the insert too once the retaiing ring is pressed ?? If that's the case you shaved the surface under the retaining ring where the lugs blend to the case ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloyd Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 No real trick. Just the same as installing any other overlay. it is just that with the extra space between the movement and dial, you can use a genuine disc as an overlay. Check out this post I wrote a few years ago. (unfortunately, I never did get around to Pt II. http://www.rwg.cc/to...-i/#entry568262 Could you pm me if you have any movement holders to sell. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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