TeeJay Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 lol TJ, I'll pass on your sister (doubt you have one lol) but I will be here watching you do your thing. haha Not in the land of the living But she's never far from my thoughts It's a quote from Full Metal Jacket, but I felt it was appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Not in the land of the living But she's never far from my thoughts It's a quote from Full Metal Jacket, but I felt it was appropriate My god TJ, I won't want to know what is "not appropriate" for you then. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Im just sayin... From where i come, it's pretty much gay for a man running around with a bag, now im just saying! How about a sack mate? I run around with a pretty big sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 @ all who think I'm a sort of scammer or whatever from the past that has the same name!? I want to make it very clear that I'm not the one who you guys think I might be! Now I will start reading the rest of the post etc and contact Ken. It's pretty lame that every one is flaming at me and backing up Mr Ken tho.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Wasn't there some other [censored]wit recently called Nils? Same dude new account? OP [censored] off our forum and don't come back, scammers are not welcome here,and by keeping the bag and making a PP claim, that makes you a scammer and a thief! To be very clear. I would rather ship him the bags back TODAY then TOMORROW. I'm not scamming or stealing from any one. For the rest I will contact KEN thru the pm function Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 You are indeed scamming you have started a PP dispute despite there being no fault of any kind on my part, I can very easily show all our correspondence here that shows very clearly that you are in the wrong. It guys like you that think you can use PP like a gun to the head of dealers who is ruining the whole hobby for others. And no you wont be able to simply turn your back on this forum and run with your dispute, if it continues you you will find yourself out of all the forums. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaneraiFan315 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Now I will start reading the rest of the post etc and contact Ken. It's pretty lame that every one is flaming at me and backing up Mr Ken tho.... Did you file a PP dispute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) You are indeed scamming you have started a PP dispute despite there being no fault of any kind on my part, I can very easily show all our correspondence here that shows very clearly that you are in the wrong. It guys like you that think you can use PP like a gun to the head of dealers who is ruining the whole hobby for others. And no you wont be able to simply turn your back on this forum and run with your dispute, if it continues you you will find yourself out of all the forums. Ken Why are you giving your self the role of a "victim" ? I have been straight up forward to whole time. I explained everything, and after receiving the goods I directly contacted you! That u didn't had time or were offline for what kind of reason I can not guess.. You were un able to contact for almost 2 weeks or so, even a mod here couldn't reach you And then the day after I filed the PP dispute you send me a message saying I will get 50% discount on my next order or so, wtf? I will ship the goods back to you, please send me your address in a PM I don't want to discuss this with outsiders to be honest. After reading the other reply's saying that I'm a thief or scammer or what ever. Edited August 21, 2012 by NSTNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Not the day after you filed the dispute the same day, which was 2 days after I made the post in this thread explaining why I have been shut. My very next PM to you asked "Did you file the dispute before or after my reply" Lets keep it open and honest here Nils I do have all the PM's Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Not the day after you filed the dispute the same day, which was 2 days after I made the post in this thread explaining why I have been shut. My very next PM to you asked "Did you file the dispute before or after my reply" Lets keep it open and honest here Nils I do have all the PM's Ken We both have the same PM's so there is nothing u can use against me Ken. We can put the whole PM history here, I don't care.. How ever I read ur PM today ja... I was away for a few days! Now I'm back u come up with post and pm's and thats fine with me but stop giving your self a victim role. I filed the pp dispute before u replied and thats a fact mister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Why do you think that returning perfectly good items is an option? What do you expect me to do with them? Give them to charity? All this is simply buyers remorse because you did not check carefull what the genuine bag looks like and now you want me to be out of pocket to cover your own laziness. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Explain to the community here why you lodged the PP dispute. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Why do you think that returning perfectly good items is an option? What do you expect me to do with them? Give them to charity? All this is simply buyers remorse because you did not check carefull what the genuine bag looks like and now you want me to be out of pocket to cover your own laziness. Ken "perfectly good items" are u kidding mate? We completely disagree on that. How ever I sent you a polite honest pm after receiving the goods. And I thought we would solve this issue easily in a proper way BUT you disappeared mate. What you can do with your "perfectly good items" ? very simple.... Sell it to some one who agrees with ur "perfectly good items" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I dont think he has to explain anything! This is all bettwen you two. This topic will onely get more and more ugly! Better to lock it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Explain to the community here why you lodged the PP dispute. Ken I filed a PP dispute because, - No response for a long time after receiving the goods - Tried to get in contact with you, but not possible - Sent you multiple pm's all polite and fair no response ofc - Especially one of the products was horrible and didn't came close to your words - Very unsatisfied overall and felt scammed (and who are YOU to tell me not the feel that way) It's a bunch of things what made me decide to do this. Besides from that I was scammed before for over 700 EU and it went the same way. How ever after the PP dispute u suddenly replied. I do believe that you had things to do etc, no problem how ever why didn't you let me know? Besides from all this, I'm a fair guy I sold a bunch of things on a other forum and they all can confirm that I communicate well, make proper pictures and ship fast and stay in contact until the buyer tells me he's happy with it or whatever. So please stop with making it look like im a bad guy! I didn't want this [censored] to happen at all but u need to be honest that this is not only my fault!!!!!!!!!! Edited August 21, 2012 by NSTNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 @ all who think I'm a sort of scammer or whatever from the past that has the same name!? I want to make it very clear that I'm not the one who you guys think I might be! Now I will start reading the rest of the post etc and contact Ken. It's pretty lame that every one is flaming at me and backing up Mr Ken tho.... You file a PP dispute AND then decide you should read the rest of the thread? I salute you, dude. Why are you giving your self the role of a "victim" ? I have been straight up forward to whole time. I explained everything, and after receiving the goods I directly contacted you! That u didn't had time or were offline for what kind of reason I can not guess.. You were un able to contact for almost 2 weeks or so, even a mod here couldn't reach you And then the day after I filed the PP dispute you send me a message saying I will get 50% discount on my next order or so, wtf? I will ship the goods back to you, please send me your address in a PM I don't want to discuss this with outsiders to be honest. After reading the other reply's saying that I'm a thief or scammer or what ever. So you indeed filed a PP dispute, expecting some kind of reaction from Ken? Seriously, you don't file a PP dispute and offer to ship back the items to a dealer. End of. We both have the same PM's so there is nothing u can use against me Ken. We can put the whole PM history here, I don't care.. How ever I read ur PM today ja... I was away for a few days! Now I'm back u come up with post and pm's and thats fine with me but stop giving your self a victim role. I filed the pp dispute before u replied and thats a fact mister. So you were away a few days, but had the time to file a PP dispute? Why is this this guy still on here??? I filed a PP dispute because, - No response for a long time after receiving the goods - Tried to get in contact with you, but not possible - Sent you multiple pm's all polite and fair no response ofc - Especially one of the products was horrible and didn't came close to your words It's a bunch of things what made me decide to do this. Besides from that I was scammed before for over 700 EU and it went the same way. How ever after the PP dispute u suddenly replied. I do believe that you had things to do etc, no problem how ever why didn't you let me know? Oh really? Then go read my sig below & please, stop buying reps. Go gen or go home, dude. I dont think he has to explain anything! This is all bettwen you two. This topic will onely get more and more ugly! Well mate, surely this is why RWG is still around today, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I dont think he has to explain anything! This is all bettwen you two. This topic will onely get more and more ugly! I will explain it here in this topic because I want every one to read what I say or said. Some on brought it into the world that i'm a thief/scammer what i'm definitely NOT. Some of u won't understand my PP dispute and some of you will. Ofc all of Ken his buddys will support him etc, how ever nobody can't tell me that i shouldn't feel scammed on that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 just for example.... Thanks Ken, The YSL looks great The prada one I really need a daylight picture/pictures. It looks way too shiny on the pictures u send to me. Because if the bag is also shiny like this on the day light pictures im not satisfied because the gen is not that shiny. Please send me the daylight pictures of the prada bag. Can u also make one picture of both dust bags and cards? Kind regards, Nils My reply... Hi Nils, I need to ask you why you believe the Prada bag has no shine to it? If you are just referring to the pic's on the Prada site you need to be aware that they picture their goods under soft light. Saffiano leather is a dappled leather and as such it will always have a certain amount of shine, for the bag to have a matt finish it would need to be suede. I did a fair bit of researching tonight and all genuine bags I saw outside of the Prada site showed a degree of shine, indeed the factory tells me that the bag is not available in a matt finish at all. I have asked my sales rep to photo the dust bags and cards, we normally don't worry about them as they are basically just packaging. Cheers Ken Hello Ken, I understand that the bag is not mat black, how ever on the pictures it looks extremely shiny. Please just give me a picture of the bag in natural light/daylight. Im not dissapointed but i want to be sure before u ship. Thank you a lot for the good communication and understanding. Kind regards, Nils I then forwarded the following 2 pic's... Your reply.... Hello Ken, Thank you very much for the fast communication and that u were willing to ask for these shots. It's still not easy to judge from the pictures, but I have to say so far it's the best rep bags I've seen. I understand that it's not easy to please me because I'm used to gen products how ever what I see on the pictures so far looks damn good for replica's! Still a bit wondering why certain parts of the bag are so shiny, maybe the bag is oiled or something for protection? How ever I want to thank you again for your smooth and friendly communication and I'm looking forward to have the bags in my hand to give my final judgement. When this transaction is completed and the bags are as good as they look like on the picture I wil definitely order some more goods from you! Please ship the bags a.s.a.p to me! Now tell me exactly where I have tried to mislead you in this transaction. If the community says I have done wrong by you I will eat the costs and refund the bags, but this is not Amazon you had all the pic's and information from me to decide before the bags were shipped. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Again. I filed the PP dispute before HE replied! Second of all don't worry I will never buy a rep bag again. Btw get ur head out of the sand.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 "It's still not easy to judge from the pictures, but I have to say so far it's the best rep bags I've seen. I understand that it's not easy to please me because I'm used to gen products how ever what I see on the pictures so far looks damn good for replica's!" How ever in real life it looked exactly where I was afraid of. Extremely shiny! and u knew on forehand that I didn't want that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Listen Ken, If u want to solve this in a proper way, we can arrange something. So please pm me and we can take a look what I can do or WE oke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 So you think you can just ship the bags back and I resell them. Ok the YSL has never been requested before and the Prada I believe the last one was sold over a year ago, so if I am to have any chance or reselling these items I will have to greatly discount them (not forgetting I already gave you a discount) so who is going to pay the shortfall? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I did PM you and you still have not replied Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSTNS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I did PM you and you still have not replied Ken Ok, I will take a look and reply to u later today. Got to go now! To all the others, no i'm not a thief and not a scammer. and YES i want/wanted to solve this in a proper way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Nils what you keep stepping around here is that there is nothing wrong with the bag, the genuine is shiny you simply did not check it out enough before purchase, that is your fault not mine. If you had purchased a Pepsi Rolex from a watch dealer and then complained the blue or red on the bezel was not the shade you like do you think you would have a valid claim if the dealers colour were correct with gen? Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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