tmg Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Buyers and sellers beware!!! Do not trade with this person (I'm being kind...) He/she bought a Tropic 127 from me then proceeded to file a chargeback with PP and say it was an unauthorized transaction. Then says in PM to me that he received it, is happy with it and didn't file a chargeback. Of course communication has gone dark since 9/8 when I forwarded a copy of the PP dispute. Admin has confirmed both member profiles are linked to the same individual and has now been banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I knew it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I had a feeling.. he was trying to buy my 6265 Franken.. sold it to a trusted member instead. He seemed sketchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I knew it Robbi, it would be good if you would speak up and post about these things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I have nothing on this guy, other than the fact that I remember he tried to sell an "AP Royal Oak Chronograph" which did not have a chrono. I guess such members will always exist, and its hard for the admin to filter out entirely the scammers from the genuine enthusiasts. Its up to all of us to be vigilant.. OP, is your PP dispute case resolved? This guy is clearly nuts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Robbi, it would be good if you would speak up and post about these things... I warned a few members about him in pm's was the best i could do at that time! But he is still active here, he is NOT banned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtguk Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Hate it when this [censored] happens on here toomuchgear thanks for letting us know about this and hope you get it sorted out with pp soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 see also here http://www.rwg.cc/topic/150630-member-yonatanezo-possible-scammer-here/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Robbi, it would be good if you would speak up and post about these things... +1 Any member of this community should voice such things. Scammers are rarely trying to reach team members Anywya, once again, as a community we are stronger than those fucking people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Not resolved yet but I provided shipping info and a photo of the goods next to the shipping label, we'll see what PP does! I have nothing on this guy, other than the fact that I remember he tried to sell an "AP Royal Oak Chronograph" which did not have a chrono. I guess such members will always exist, and its hard for the admin to filter out entirely the scammers from the genuine enthusiasts. Its up to all of us to be vigilant.. OP, is your PP dispute case resolved? This guy is clearly nuts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Correction, his trading rights have been removed and pending the outcome of this PP dispute will be banned. The other acct YE has already been banned. I warned a few members about him in pm's was the best i could do at that time! But he is still active here, he is NOT banned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin22 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hey toomuchgear, check my thread Andy linked above. Does the address I have posted the same as the shipping address you were given? Was the email the same? Was your transaction with YE or VI? Are you fighting it with PP? Just curious may be we can help each other and others this has happened to. PP told me his PP account is now limited, so I don't think he can use his YE PP email to screw anyone else, for now anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFree Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Not resolved yet but I provided shipping info and a photo of the goods next to the shipping label, we'll see what PP does! Did you send PayPal a copy of his Email? Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtiis Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I was "in on" the 1665 thread. I don't want to speak for Kukuruz - but I guess he didn't have enough "on" the guy to speak publically but just sensed a few things didn't add up. His approach to trying to by cc33's watch seemed rushed and off-norm to me too - but some people are just different so you just hope that's all it is. Looks like he may be different in a bad kind of way unfortunately.... hope you get the funds back OP - even if you do have toomuchgear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Hey all, This happened a few weeks ago but I wanted to let it all be resolved before I posted about it so apologies! Worst buying experience of my life I actually tried to buy a gen 3135 from this member. He is from tel aviv Israel and im willing to bet, while is account is deleted he is still lurking around. He started out by saying he had a gen 3135 so I asked where he got it and he said his watchmaker friend "Tali" had another one. Was emailing both negotiated a price including registered insured mail etc. payed via Paypal done deal. This guy tells me its sent so I keep asking him for the tracking number, he ignores my PM's on here my emails etc. Finally he replies telling me im rude and its been sent and he will send me the tracking number... nothing So I file a paypal claim and get my money back. I have since bought another 3135 which was actually sent! I think he does go by the alias "vintage.israel" because his last activity date on his "yonatanezo" account is the same date his vintageisrael account was created. His facebook page also says he has a masters... I dont believe that for a second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Hey all, This happened a few weeks ago but I wanted to let it all be resolved before I posted about it so apologies! Worst buying experience of my life I actually tried to buy a gen 3135 from this member. He is from tel aviv Israel and im willing to bet, while is account is deleted he is still lurking around. He started out by saying he had a gen 3135 so I asked where he got it and he said his watchmaker friend "Tali" had another one. Was emailing both negotiated a price including registered insured mail etc. payed via Paypal done deal. This guy tells me its sent so I keep asking him for the tracking number, he ignores my PM's on here my emails etc. Finally he replies telling me im rude and its been sent and he will send me the tracking number... nothing So I file a paypal claim and get my money back. I have since bought another 3135 which was actually sent! I think he does go by the alias "vintage.israel" because his last activity date on his "yonatanezo" account is the same date his vintageisrael account was created. His facebook page also says he has a masters... I dont believe that for a second I am sorry to hear that. I hope that you got your money back and all was good. Regarding his masters, he did not say masters in which area. perhaps its Master in Horological Scams and Integrity Erasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I saw some topics that he was active on. I could smell bad fish miles from his replays ect ect.. I just warned a few people in thouse topics to "watch your back" with this guy! But is he still here??? Wasent he banned??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_189 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I am sorry to hear that. I hope that you got your money back and all was good. Regarding his masters, he did not say masters in which area. perhaps its Master in Horological Scams and Integrity Erasure. Thanks! I got all the money back Luckily I paid the 3% fees via paypal and didnt send the money as a gift as he requested or it would be gone!! He needs to be exiled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Close call Dan glad it worked out for you in the end...Scammers make me so angry...Hopefully the 'knock on the door' will sort this [censored] out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red series 3 Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I too thought some things were up I think he posted about wanting some better quality 128 crystals had watches from phong but wanted to buy phong crystals from members here. Certainly seemed strange. Thanks for making the effort to get this known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickdangerous Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Share his personal details with the world. Maybe a fellow user is a neighbour and would like to go Texas on his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFree Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks! I got all the money back Luckily I paid the 3% fees via paypal and didnt send the money as a gift as he requested or it would be gone!! He needs to be exiled! I never send payment as a gift. I would rather pay the 3% so I have some sort of recourse. I am glad to hear you received your money back. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I never send payment as a gift. I would rather pay the 3% so I have some sort of recourse. I am glad to hear you received your money back. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Phill i assume that this is noted info for the other board you visit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFree Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Phill i assume that this is noted info for the other board you visit? You're correct, it is against forum rules. The buyer has no recourse in the event of a dispute. I believe the top reason is it's against PayPal TOS. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted December 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2012 Just an FYI, the CC company ruled in my favor on the chargeback. I hope someone has gone Texas on the scammers ass, the pr1ck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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