chiman12 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Carry on for me. This a thread to keep an eye on for most of us I think. The ptsa3135 and yuki are very different. The yuki seems to be a much closer copy on all areas than the first sa3135. Okay...thanks watcher...pardon me if I use the wrong terms as I'm not a watchmaker... The Y3135 has no markings....the balance bridge, regulator, shock absorbing clamp are completely different Close up pics of the regulator and balance bridge. notice the beveled edge and the additional screw on the bridge on the Y3135 as compared to the A3135 Here we have a close up of the winding lever. The pivot used for the A3135 is much smaller than the one used on the Y3135 Even the holes for the case screws are different sizes...Y3135 being smaller Let's take a look at the jewels for the reversing wheels. The jewels used on the A3135 are much smaller than the Y3135 Now on to the front of the movement. The date wheel auto advancing wheel on the Y3135 has a jewel, while on the A3135 there is no jewel The manual date advancing wheel is also different. On the Y3135, it is actualy a gear, similar to the gen, while the A3135 uses a plate and thin tube to attach the gear which advances the date wheel. THe Y3135 uses a jewel to hold and align the date wheel, while the A3135 uses a metal stud And finally the stem, the Y3135 (with plastic crown) is much more "significant" than the A3135. The Y3135 looks closer to the WSO 3135 replacement stems for the 3135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Thanks chiMAN12 we appreciate your excellent review and pointers Can we get this pinned? this is very interesting info and should be available for all to see ! great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 That's a great comparison! Any chance you can get some pics of the keyless on both though? PM me if you don't want to post them here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 I can pin this and i think i will, we can see there that these is with out doupt at least 3 versions of the 3135 Rolex Y3135 A3135 and it does not look like many parts are compatible I wish some one could send these to Ziggy so we could hear his expert oppinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiman12 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 And I forgot one last detail...the date wheel for the A3135 is 21.78mm and 21.63mm for the Y3135. The A3135 date wheel will not work on the Y3135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 I bought a gen because nothing fit gen hands and a gen dial!! Looks good though congrats!! I bought a gen because nothing fit gen hands and a gen dial!! Looks good though congrats!! +1 Congrats and thanks for sharing the review Brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 And I forgot one last detail...the date wheel for the A3135 is 21.78mm and 21.63mm for the Y3135. The A3135 date wheel will not work on the Y3135 What size is the gen DW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klocklind1 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Thanks watcher for that review:) Now my TC LV with genuine insert looks less good:( It is a TC case You have build it with ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Yes it is a tc case but the bezel is a superior wm9/tw version which does have a better profile and more even teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Sorry if I missed it, how's the time keeping on this? Has anyone had a chance to see what the amplitude and beat error are on theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glacy Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 With the date jumping, i had the same problem when i used aftermarket date wheel on gen rolex. I then got gen datewheel and the problem fixed. I think it's about either how the teeth of the datewheel is cut or warperage of the datewheel... just a guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBOGH Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Chris from 10:10 did a great full tear down review of this movement. http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?/topic/36061-Yuki-3135-Clone-teardown-and-review My conclusion is, this is a movement that follows a solid simple design very closely, but it's produced using the least expensive materials and poor technique. Could be from a 21J factory with the typical rep quality assembly. Because so many parts are so poorly finished, it seems prone to be problematic. A gen movement would have all of the bridges highly decorated and polished, and the edges finished with anglage. The wheels and gears should also be polished so any imperfections and rough edges are either spotted and rejected, or corrected. The overall re-assembly was very easy though, bridges didn't stick like on a clone ETA, and everything fit together neatly, but there was excessive endshake in the balance and in some of the wheels which is time consuming to adjust. If you buy one, expect that it will need a service at least, but what you get it is: a better keyless a proper fit in a TC case (confirming that soon) the ability to take gen hands and a gen dial (also coming soon) hands that turn in the same direction as gen and a datewheel that should be much more reliable. A couple of notes: Upon receipt, the movement wound and set very stiffly and felt cheap. After the service it's much better. The stem came with rust on the threads, oh well. The click isn't quite milled right so that when it's screw is tightened it doesn't function correctly. I just found out why they didn't tighten that screw all the way when I received it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 FANTASTIC THREAD, REVIEW AND COMPARISON. Thanks watcher and thanks to all the "heavy hitting gurus" and resident experts for the priceless infomation. I agree. This will open the market to gen owner replacements over the next decade. (to date Rolex has pulled 312 parts accts here in the CONUS....at least that's what I've been told. by someone I consider to be a very reliable source ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrianfoo Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thanks for the review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Some more notes on gen rolex spares in the Y3135: I replaced all keyless works on my Y3135 for genuine Rolex parts. They fit without a problem, only the jumper for the setting lever has to be slightly modified. The Y3135 also takes genuine or generic Rolex 3135 stems! Gen hands fit perfectly! My Y3135 came very clean, oiled and regulated to about +3s/day. I am very pleased with the Y3135 and would recommend it in a heartbeat. Only thing I am not perfectly happy with is the date wheel. Genuine date wheels work on the Y3135, so I'll replace it with a gen once I find a white date wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Some more notes on gen rolex spares in the Y3135: I replaced all keyless works on my Y3135 for genuine Rolex parts. They fit without a problem, only the jumper for the setting lever has to be slightly modified. The Y3135 also takes genuine or generic Rolex 3135 stems! Gen hands fit perfectly! My Y3135 came very clean, oiled and regulated to about +3s/day. I am very pleased with the Y3135 and would recommend it in a heartbeat. Only thing I am not perfectly happy with is the date wheel. Genuine date wheels work on the Y3135, so I'll replace it with a gen once I find a white date wheel. cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiman12 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I haven't tried any gen parts on my Y3135 chef...but that is great news...especially the stems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Gen hands, dial and date disc worked great for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterloosmith Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Im amazed i had no idea they were making movements that actaully look like a rolex inside as well? are these available in watches yet? or just movements on their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 The SA3135 movement (another asian 3135 rep) is only available in watches at this point. Both versions (this and the SA3135 version) have their issues but with a service they should be reasonable solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexlove Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 im sorry guys, im new here , can anybody tell me , who is yuki? thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 http://bit.ly/WGP2h0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 well...when will there be an update on this movt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clem2192 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Anyone know whether the issues have been sorted with this movement yet ?? Thinking of going 3135 clone so that I don't have to ruin a gen dial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceocorona Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I emailed yuki, sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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