sputim Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Thanks for the info. Do you think its better AR than the one on the CrPo? Mine got bad scratches pretty fast thats why I removed it but now it looks not as nice anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 just for a quick reference, heres my gen smp quartz that I modded myself...it has a crystal from a planet ocean, bezel ring from a planet ocean and the original smp insert... had to use the po bezel to avoid the lip between bezel and crystal, however on the new smp-c, the bezel and ceramic insert are a lot taller than the older smp, so im hoping the crystal will be a straight swap height wise. check out the no crystal effect...even from relatively straight on... you can see here the longer hands compared to the older model, so should look fine on the smp-c and a final wrist shot... That is one of the nicest looking watches I've ever seen. Well done Sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest khashayar Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Just a quick update: I used a hair dryer as suggested by bamcky2k to heat up the glue, and gently pushed the pearl in until a decent position. This worked perfectly, and the watch was not damaged during the process. Also glad I didn't have to take of the bezel. Easy mod suggestion for everyone who gets the SMP-c and doesn't want their pearl sticking out like mount everest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Just a quick update: I used a hair dryer as suggested by bamcky2k to heat up the glue, and gently pushed the pearl in until a decent position. This worked perfectly, and the watch was not damaged during the process. Also glad I didn't have to take of the bezel. Easy mod suggestion for everyone who gets the SMP-c and doesn't want their pearl sticking out like mount everest. glad it worked finally, makes a hell of a difference doesn't it! @kernow, cheers man, modding gens is something I like doing just as much as reps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danza1812 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Just a quick update: I used a hair dryer as suggested by bamcky2k to heat up the glue, and gently pushed the pearl in until a decent position. This worked perfectly, and the watch was not damaged during the process. Also glad I didn't have to take of the bezel. Easy mod suggestion for everyone who gets the SMP-c and doesn't want their pearl sticking out like mount everest. Could you post a quick pic? Got my crsmp arriving this week all being well and this will be the first thing I do to it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walden Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 A question as this was only touched upon in the review and/or subsequent replies; does the He valve turn? Or is it glued in place and immobile? I had a PO that had it's He valve immobile and this was bothersome. Great review by the way. Ryan at Intime shows this rep with the pearl properly sunk-in to the bezel in case anyone is interested. Could be my next purchase if the He valve is not immobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 HE valve turns (screws and un-screws) but does not go right through the case (to aid water resistance...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danza1812 Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Mine arrived this morning. Fantastic packaging from Josh may I add. The watch is very nice under has a real quality feel about it actually. It a bit thicker than I'd hoped but when on the wrist it's not too noticeable. Overall a very well constructed ootb rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Mine arrived this morning. Fantastic packaging from Josh may I add. The watch is very nice under has a real quality feel about it actually. It a bit thicker than I'd hoped but when on the wrist it's not too noticeable. Overall a very well constructed ootb rep. great stuff mate! the gen is also thicker than the older smp, I think it adds more wrist presence to an already cool watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danza1812 Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Only thing I'm now dwelling on is the shade of the bezel, I know this is black but it constantly looks grey cos of the light on it. Does a gen ceramic bezel have the same effect cos when I look at google images it alway looks more black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 gen has same effect, if you go to an AD and look at a gen, it changes colour just as much. on mine, in direct sun light it can range from pitch black to almost silver, indoors pretty much always black. honestly the colour is very gen like. the blue version im waiting to see in real world pics, the gen blue is same as the black-very glossy and is almost a pale faded colour in some light yet dark blue in other situations...the rep blue looks too matte but we'll see soon hopfully heres a gen black bezel for comparison (lifted from google images) don't dwell on the colour, its a fantastic rep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertatia Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) This watch is superb..... The only difference I found between this and the gen was the pearl Regardless, I will still be getting it Edited August 12, 2013 by papab34r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Gotta go to a AD and try this SMP-C on...the new thickness is my only concern...I know for a fact the diameter and the shape of the case is almost perfect and fits my wrist even better than the 42mm PO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 This watch is superb..... The only difference I found between this and the gen was the pearl Regardless, I will still be getting it both myself and another member on this thread have modded the pearl to sit flush with the bezel/insert and it makes a great difference...just read back through the last few pages and all the info is there! @ryaku, the smp doesn't sit as tall as the planet ocean and wears flatter and wider, you should be more than ok with the smp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmex Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I received the blue one (blue SMP has always been MY personal fav), and I am pleased. However, I will admit that this bezel insert has what looks like a blue paint on top and is not glass-like shiny as the black version is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Looks awesome, but for me at the moment (financial difficulties) almost all reps are a bit pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Looks awesome, but for me at the moment (financial difficulties) almost all reps are a bit pricey. I feel you, same here.. that's why I have to choose very carefully...my purchasing power really sucks and reps are becoming dearer and dearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myulchi Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hello! I just received mine today from Toros. Awesome quality I must say. I have a question though, I noticed how my bezel and the insert are not aligned. Pearl is not below one of the pointy ends of the bezel. I tried to turn the insert within the bezel but no luck. If anyone knows how to fix this, please help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmex Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hello! I just received mine today from Toros. Awesome quality I must say. I have a question though, I noticed how my bezel and the insert are not aligned. Pearl is not below one of the pointy ends of the bezel. I tried to turn the insert within the bezel but no luck. If anyone knows how to fix this, please help Oops. The bezel insert is ceramic and will chip if you try to pry it out with sharp object. The proper way to fix it is to take the bezel off and then massage the bezel insert out, then re-set into place. Unfortunately it is a risky process and you could injure yourself or scratch the watch badly while doing this. It is best to probably leave it that way, it is not a big deal. If it bothers you tremendously (I am bothered by stuff like this too!), you could carefully try to warm the bezel insert with a blow dryer while you use a soft sharp object like a toothpick or a thin plastic card (thinner than a credit card) and see if the glue loosens up a bit.. then just reattach in the proper position, with the 5 minute markers aligning with the pointy ends. Look up how to remove bezel on these.. it usually involves a sharp blade slid between the bezel and the watch--danger! Or a special tool that costs $$ and looks like 4 razor blades pointing at each other lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertatia Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Any idea how one would go about getting one of these water proofed for say swimming? Also, compared to a sub c, is this watch noticeably a lot bigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Any idea how one would go about getting one of these water proofed for say swimming? Also, compared to a sub c, is this watch noticeably a lot bigger? the He valve may screw/unscrew but does not go through the entire case-theres no hole through to the movement so no probs there, the crown screws down pretty good (on mine atleast) with a lot of turns to lock it, crystal gasket was a little thin when I stripped my entire watch to check the build but works fine, caseback gasket is present and if greased will be fine, caseback tightens down nice and tight...and to top it off, I had mine pressure tested to both 50m then 100m at a local shop-it passed no problems! ofcourse get yours pressure tested as not all reps are the same... the watch is bigger than a sub c yes...I found my no date sub c rep wore very small, good looking, but the seamaster feels more substantial on my wrist... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmex Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 the He valve may screw/unscrew but does not go through the entire case-theres no hole through to the movement so no probs there, the crown screws down pretty good (on mine atleast) with a lot of turns to lock it, crystal gasket was a little thin when I stripped my entire watch to check the build but works fine, caseback gasket is present and if greased will be fine, caseback tightens down nice and tight...and to top it off, I had mine pressure tested to both 50m then 100m at a local shop-it passed no problems! ofcourse get yours pressure tested as not all reps are the same... the watch is bigger than a sub c yes...I found my no date sub c rep wore very small, good looking, but the seamaster feels more substantial on my wrist... Thank you for posting this! When you stripped your watch, did you take the bezel off? I would like to polish my bezel insert and align it while I'm at it, and I want to know if it was relatively easy or what method you used (I do not need to have an accident on this watch ) I have the blue version and the bezel is a "different" ceramic, basically it may be powder coated or spray coated and if I was able to "mirror" polish it it may look more like the gen bezel insert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Thank you for posting this! When you stripped your watch, did you take the bezel off? I would like to polish my bezel insert and align it while I'm at it, and I want to know if it was relatively easy or what method you used (I do not need to have an accident on this watch ) I have the blue version and the bezel is a "different" ceramic, basically it may be powder coated or spray coated and if I was able to "mirror" polish it it may look more like the gen bezel insert. I did indeed remove the bezel...its an absolute pain in the proverbial! its on there tight, and its very easy to bend the bezel ring...and also chip the ceramic insert if your not careful...looking at gen blue version pics from when this model was released the bezel is very shiny giving the blue an almost faded look-just like the black version looks grey/silver in certain light, however, when I viewed a blue version at an AD last week the bezel was more matte finish and almost textured...I asked the sales guy (a mate of mine) about this and hes under the impression omega tweaked the design slightly but couldn't say for 100%...the pics of yours actually looks quite close to the one I seen... if you decided to try and polish it, you may well take the paint off if your not careful and wreck the bezel...a better way if you can get the bezel off and remove the insert with great care would be to give it a few coats of high gloss clear coat spray...would defo give a glossier/shinier appearance... out of the box, the black is very much the closest to gen...in fact its mad how close for a first run rep...i'll be doing a thread in a week or so with a tear down review and pics... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmex Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) thank you bamcky2k. Did you use the knife to the bezel? Is there a particular zone or approach to this? I've done it on Subs, but tried on a SMP and I believe I changed my mind after a few tries. Your comment about the bezel insert having a V2 is very interesting. I have only seen it once at the AD and that was prior to purchasing it. Q2(edit): is the insert glued on or has double-sided tape? Edited August 15, 2013 by madmex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I used a bezel/caseback popping tool found in most cheap watch tool kits, it was tough...the gen smp bezels and gen planet ocean bezels ive changed were simple easy compared to this rep! the steel feels softer on the rep and is easily bent so take great care and work around equally as you go...also watch you don't damage the bezel retaining spring... don't quote me on the bezel colour tweak by omega...however its what ive noticed and also what an AD had noticed...(he defo agreed that the blue ones he sold when first released did indeed have a glossier bezel finish than the blue one he had in recently...) the insert id say is double sided taped in...a quick heat up with a hair drier and worked its way out, just watch you don't chip/crack/split the insert! the residue left behind was awful though and needed cleaning thoroughly bezel reattaching the insert. if you do pop yours see if the back of the insert is blue...if it is it could be one piece blue ceramic, if its black the blue is probably painted onto the front then possibly lacquered to give the shine... the entire structure of the watch is extremely good for a rep though, on the black bezel version its really hard to find a fault with the watch both in looks and build quality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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