tonton2000 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I wonder why the watch you tried has black datewheel with white numbers and not the other way around. Special request? Its a gen, though you can't tell really Notice the missing pusher @ 2 o'clock Also, the complete uselessness of an AR coated BACK crystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Its a gen, though you can't tell really Notice the missing pusher @ 2 o'clock Also, the complete uselessness of an AR coated BACK crystal Do you mind to tell us where you found it? I guess not from any AD without this pusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uziuzi Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Yes, this is very interesting indeed. The pusher is not supposed to be missing. This must be a rep. The datewhell exists in both black and white version, this was already mentioned somewhere above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Yes, this is very interesting indeed. The pusher is not supposed to be missing. This must be a rep. DEFINATELY not a rep with that beautiful engraving on the back and the AR coated.. It looks like a beat-up genuine.. Probably a wife learned that her husband bought a new Big Bang and she gave him her own Bang !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Maybe tonton2000 can enlighten us. The back of the watch still had the TRL sticker attached, so why would that be if it was a beat up used gen. with a missing pusher? Interesting? I have a 7 1/2 inch wrist so no issues with this watchsize. My problem is opposite, smaller than 38mm looks dinky on my wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochenbrau Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Is it just me, or is the date font clearly different on the rep??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Interesting observation. If you are comparing to the one tonton2000 just posted, yes it is different, if you are comparing to the gen pics posted on timezone and elsewhere, it is correct except the printing is just slightly skinnier on the rep. The 2 and 3 numbers match, but the one on tonton2000's wrist doesn't match to the gen pics. previously posted. Edit: On second thought after more examination, I believe you are right and the date font is not exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Is it just me, or is the date font clearly different on the rep??? Yes it is different.. the rep's is more square-ish than the gen. On the other hand the black datewheel tonton posted has a different font definately more bold.. so are we talking for differences in the datewheels as well between genuines??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureTime Posted December 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Just had a long discussion with the watch maker, we talked about which HBB versions we are going to release and which are not... Told him about the date font issue, but it is too late to correct it now, we think the problem is not very significant, isn't it? During our discussion, he bisected the HBB and I took some pics of HBB's parts. Enjoy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RiverwindMDS Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Man, very good pictures. Is it possible to know thw versions that are coming out? CAn you anticipate us what you two talked about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Wow, great detailed pics., thanks Angus. I can see now trying to fit a CF strap to this is going to take some ingenuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy1 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Well, it definitely has AR coating according to those pics. That is friggin great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 I might be wrong, but I think a lot of the early production demo models have AR, but then when they actually hit the mainstream, they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Wow... I'm VERY impressed with the case construction! This is a very complex piece... Needless to say... The rep world has come a LONG way in very short time! Angus... I must ask... Do you ever sleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RiverwindMDS Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 I don't think so... He's replying in the stangest times for somone who lives in china... I really like the SS version. I think I'm going only for the ss and then waiting for ceramic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochenbrau Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Told him about the date font issue, but it is too late to correct it now, we think the problem is not very significant, isn't it? It doesnt bother me. I just wasnt sure if I was seeing things or not because the date font wasnt discussed in 10 pages of a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureTime Posted December 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Man, very good pictures. Is it possible to know thw versions that are coming out? CAn you anticipate us what you two talked about? We don't have any decision yet, just looked at the different versions and discussed which ones looked nice and what info we have now. Wow, great detailed pics., thanks Angus. I can see now trying to fit a CF strap to this is going to take some ingenuity. You are welcome. The existing rubber strap is very nice, quality is comparable to the genuine. Well, it definitely has AR coating according to those pics. That is friggin great news. Yes, it is genuine AR instead of just some blue-ish coating. I might be wrong, but I think a lot of the early production demo models have AR, but then when they actually hit the mainstream, they don't. I am not sure but I have never seen a prototype has AR but the final product doesn't. Wow... I'm VERY impressed with the case construction! This is a very complex piece... Needless to say... The rep world has come a LONG way in very short time! Angus... I must ask... Do you ever sleep? Yes, this watch is made 1:1 from the genuine, even the small screws are made 100% same genuine, besides the movement case, everything can be installed into a genuine HBB. Yes I do sleep, I usually sleep when most of you sleep as well, because I can reply as soon as you guys have questions and problems. I don't think so... He's replying in the stangest times for somone who lives in china... I really like the SS version. I think I'm going only for the ss and then waiting for ceramic... Haha, yes, I sleep at about 9:00am in the morning (GMT +. It doesnt bother me. I just wasnt sure if I was seeing things or not because the date font wasnt discussed in 10 pages of a thread. I remember someone had talked about this but I forgot where it was. Btw, thank you for your opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 This thread is amazing. I can't wait to see some of the new PAMs that are coming. I know the North Pole GMT is on the way... I'm hoping others, as well. This manufacturer seems to be interested in getting his products right. Very refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uziuzi Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 I think its Angus who is running this great project. We have to thank him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonton2000 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Great pics PT! The one i had in the earlier pictures was indeed a (very) beat up gen, missing a chrono pusher, and a careful owner by the looks of it. A good friend of mine has a service centre, and this is one of the pieces that has come in for fixing. Looking (intensively and obsessively) at Angus' pics, i can honestly say that i can see NO glaring differences between his rep and the gen, movt aside. The gen also uses a valjoux 7750 (i have seen the eta stamp under the balance wheel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochenbrau Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 This thread is amazing. Absolutely. I like how everyone dissected the flaws. I like to know all the flaws going into a rep purchase. If I try to detect all of them by myself I always miss a fair amount. I would have never noticed the unbrushed area on the caseback. Thanks for posting this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Wow, this rep definitely is worth it for the price, look at that work of art case construction! I definitely expected it to visually look perfect, but even the case construction is completely identical. I have never seen a case so complicated (Not even the AP Royal Oak), and it's just amazing how every last detail is correct on this piece. I definitely can't wait for mine to arrive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario33 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Agreed on an awesome thread...I may have to reconsider and pick one of these up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarks Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 If the RG looks good on my wrist, I'm gonna betcha I'll be putting down money for the rest of the accurate versions. Damn, HBB is the new Panerai..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj69 Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Angus, Rather than the "Black Magic" verison, are there any plans to make the "All Black" version??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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