kernow Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Guys, I recently purchased a watch from a member on here. I paid quickly and was requested to use PayPal gift. I asked to go 50:50 on PayPal fees but he refused, so I paid them myself. The watch should have been posted special delivery within the UK to my UK address last Friday. I've asked the seller via PM and email to update me and nothing. He originally gave me a telephone number which I've left a message on but no reply. I know of at least one other member on here who's having the same problem as me with this seller and wondered if there are any other members who are experiencing the same lack of communication and no watch. The seller has logged on - yesterday, but has not replied to my email or voicemail. He has been selling a fair few watches recently so be careful. Any advice appreciated. Moderators please contact me to advise the next step I should take. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 you should name the member, since you have not accused him of anything, and only stating facts so far. It serves 2 purposes: a. It serves as a call-out to him, so that he could explain himself to you, if PMing does not work b. It serves as a warning to the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 you should name the member, since you have not accused him of anything, and only stating facts so far. It serves 2 purposes: a. It serves as a call-out to him, so that he could explain himself to you, if PMing does not work b. It serves as a warning to the rest of us. If that's accepted then I will breitlingguy is the member concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithdj10 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I'm the other member. Paid on Thursday night, not a single respond back since then. My confidence was built by their post count of nearly a hundred.Not a huge amount of money but not a pleasant 1st buying experience!Disappointed but that's life. I'll name and shame tomorrow, if no one else does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 It is fair because you are just stating facts, and have not accused him of anything so far. If breitlingguy has not responded to PMs or any form of communication for some time, and this is the way to get his attention, then its not a matter of choice. An entire group of us is getting scammed by a watch modder here (read the thread started by me in the same section of the forum, over 5000 views, hard to miss) and see how we deal with scammers and potential scammers. I think the tolerance level for scamming in this forum has plummeted recently on the whole due to the behavior of certain individuals on the forum. If you have genuine reason to believe you are being scammed or shortchanged, and the other party is not responding, call him out and let him explain himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 An entire group of us is getting scammed by a watch modder here (read the thread started by me in the same section of the forum, over 5000 views, hard to miss) and see how we deal with scammers and potential scammers. I've read the thread with interest. It's shocking how a respected member of the community can turn rogue. Additionally, maybe there should be a rule for sellers not to request PayPal gift payments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 There is no reason to use PayPal gift, unless you are not willing to pay the 4% or so PayPal charge. I am becoming more and more reluctant to use PayPal gift unless it is someone who is a long standing board member who is and active participant in forum discussions, or I'm actually sending a gift like a donation. Using PayPal gift to me is essentially the same as using Western Union or MoneyGram, once you hit the send button, it's gone!! Hopefully the seller has a reasonable explanation as to why he hasn't responded to PM's and phone messages. My feelings are if you have enough free time to log into the forum and spend time here looking around, you darn sure have time to answer a buyers PM. Maybe it's time for the administrators to start thinking about some sort of selling suspension if a seller has unresolved problems with buyers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Guys if they request gift send as goods and pay the fee yourself. An honest seller whom is just looking to get let us say $250 for the watch may not want to lose 4% if you pay fees he gets 250 and you spend 10 extra seems like a small amount to cover yourself now correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 A few members here have bought from him. Dose anyone have his address - possibly written as a return address on a delivery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Guys if they request gift send as goods and pay the fee yourself. An honest seller whom is just looking to get let us say $250 for the watch may not want to lose 4% if you pay fees he gets 250 and you spend 10 extra seems like a small amount to cover yourself now correct. That's what I did Mike, I just hope I can get the money back from PayPal if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Guys if they request gift send as goods and pay the fee yourself. An honest seller whom is just looking to get let us say $250 for the watch may not want to lose 4% if you pay fees he gets 250 and you spend 10 extra seems like a small amount to cover yourself now correct. Makes sense Mike, I sent you via goods and 4% extra for the raffle. Since you gave away my prize while I was sleeping, I can now raise paypal dispute :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Smith you gave good feed back did you do another transaction? If not no feedback till you get the watch is how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 When you come to NYC I 'm gonna ......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 When you come to NYC I 'm gonna ......................... Its unfair Mike, you have 300lbs over me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Let you buy dinner!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Let you buy dinner!!!! I will be happy to do that for a straight month for you, brother. Dinner and drinks, until you drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Good you have no idea how much I can do on both! (We are hijacking) Back to matter at hand. Smith what do you say ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 If you do use PP .. I would suggest you do it now.... PP works by first opening a dispute...although this is formal it does not involve PP it remains between you and the seller and as last opportunity to resolve the issue.... you would still need to claim within 21 days of filing the dispute... This would be done automatically by PP if the seller has not replied or looked to make a resolution when the dispute started... So by doing so now you are at least forcing him to respond in some way.... if he doesnt then you will by default get your money back when you make the claim... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Pete sent as gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Pete sent as gift. Not by me it wasn't, I paid the PayPal fee myself. Pete, what should I say about the errrrr watch? I've not opened a PayPal dispute before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docthor Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Nope Mike... That's what I did Mike, I just hope I can get the money back from PayPal if necessary. change your glasses mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Sorry read the other thought both. Kernow well just keep track of the clock/days since you bought if you get nothing from him file on last day. Hey you bought a watch it never came end of story you do not have to go into detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Cheers fellas. Still a pain in the [censored] though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I can't believe [censored] is censored. A R S E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 At the moment if you do as I suggest then that is not mentioned...as I said it is just a resolution centre...it is not a claim for money back What you do is open dispute in resolution centre which is in the tool bar on your PP page (Rest of this post removed....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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