Big Dazza Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Been noticing that the new Tudor Black Bay reps are only just reaching buyers and already they are being moved on. With so many catch and releases it's making me thing there's something people aren't liking about the watch? I've seen a gen of the Black Bay while in Boston and it was a lovely watch and even though I'm trying to save for a gen Rolex I'm pretty tempted to order a Black Bay rep to see if its a good as the gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Big D none here guys would scoop them up, where I will take a look see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Which board/s is fine do not need a link, know my way around our little world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dazza Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Theres been a few popping up on RWI but they're having server issues so it can be a bit frustrating checking their sales area. Some dealers are offering the Black Bay for around $300 shipped now too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fijikid Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hype. Hope. Nope. Next please. Expectation exceeds reality, most of the time. Especially when it's a rep! Bought at a discount on the used market, they will be more appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
If you see Kay Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Lots have been nit picking the minutiae of the watch, Like the pearl and pearl cup, the hand sized, the deepness of the caseback engraving, the difference in lume colour between the hands and hour markers, The list goes on. Some people want perfection in a little $300 package. Those that don't get it are disappointed and hence C&R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dazza Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Looks like a great rep to me. If its even 90% gen like I'd be happy. People sometimes put their expectations too high, as long as there isn't any dust under the crystal, any misaligned bezel inserts etc I'm a happy chap. Saying that the gen I seen in Boston at a used watch dealers already had specks of dirt under the crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKTime Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm trying to get one right now just to keep myself from grabbing the gen. Then maybe I can splurge and get that Pelagos I've been drooling over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
importr Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Over hyped watch of the century! I can see from the dealer pics that there are already inconsistencies compared with the gen. Unfortunately in this hobby there is far too much expectation and people forget that there is no such thing as a perfect rep. Some TDs are very clever with marketing themselves and their products and it's easy to get carried along with the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martijnp Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I really like the Tudor Black Bay, didn't see that much C&R sales on RWG/RWI though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirotenshi Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I really like the Tudor Black Bay, didn't see that much C&R sales on RWG/RWI though.. +1 I only saw a few C&R. Compared to the numbers of BB that were sold, they are really a tiny %. I own one and love it, althought the pearl could have been a bit more centered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyyammine Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I saw one on rwi. But i see that this watch has been overhyped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dazza Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Probably a bit picky but they dont seem to be selling anymore with the engraved movement plates. Thats the one id be interested in. Even though id never see it its nice to know the details there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKTime Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Probably a bit picky but they dont seem to be selling anymore with the engraved movement plates. Thats the one id be interested in. Even though id never see it its nice to know the details there I paid for one from Sora (Shinewatch) and was told it will have Rotor and plate engraving. I'm wondering if people were told only the first run will have the engraving to get more pre-orders. Or Sora could be mistaken. I will know shortly when this watch arrives. I was offered 308.00 with free HK post but I paid extra 10.00 for EMS. http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=173145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dazza Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Did you just buy it recently? I asked Sora too and he told me none of the ones have engraved plates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKTime Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Did you just buy it recently? I asked Sora too and he told me none of the ones have engraved plates I paid for mine this morning. I didn't specifically ask about the engraving because it wasn't a big deal to me. I plan on swapping mine for a gen ETA 2824 anyway. Sora had said in the sales thread that they were engraved though. Probably just an over-sight I guess/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikoteen Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 It's only the rotor that's engraved folks....the first batch had the bridges underneath engraved too... but you don't see it anyways. Sent from my i7000 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraggle42 Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 I love mine, and even though I don't expect perfection it's that damn close I'm more than happy with it Anyone who C&Rs it either just got unlucky and got one with a problem and can't be bothered to send it back to be sorted, they'd rather say its perfect and shift the problem onto someone else, or maybe should stick to gens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I believe C&R is endemic to watch fanatics. We get caught up in all the hype, and we buy into it and next thing you know, we have a new watch on the way. One big problem with reps is the inability to try them on at an AD like a lot of genuine watches. We go to and AD and try on the genuine equivalent, and then when the rep comes in we are disappointed because it's not exactly like the gen. Our biggest problem is our OCD, we agonize over little discrepancies that will never be picked up with the naked eye, but we know they are there, and we fret over them and finally convince ourselves that the watch is "Unwearable", because it's got these miniscule flaws. Most of us need less watches and more life!!! AFA the Black bay, it never impressed me at all. I'm not a big fan of snowflake hands, even though I own a genuine Tudor 9411/0. Another thing, I believe that folks discover that the red bezel is not neutral like a black bezel or S/S. When you realize that it's a little too sporty to wear with a business suit, it looses some of it's appeal. Add all that, and then you look at some of the flaws that the manufacturers and dealers sort of glossed over and it becomes expendable. Over the years, I have sold and traded a lot more watches than I have kept. Most of the time, it just didn't resonate with me. I would try my best to love it, but if it wasn't there, it wasn't there. C&R is not novel to reps, just go to WUS or TZ and look at the number of practically brand new watches are on sale every day. Folks buy them looking for something that isn't there. that plus the fact that most of us are serial "flippers" anyway. What was interesting to me, was the MKII Kingston. the watch was over 3 years coming from deposit to delivery. The watches trickled in to the owners over probably a year or more. After all that wait, there were brand new Kingston's hitting the sales forum on WUS within days of delivery. Guys waited patiently for three plus years to get the watch, and poof it was gone in days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 The difference is, the Kingston sold for a premium. Beautiful watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 The difference is, the Kingston sold for a premium. Beautiful watch.Still is, and the price keeps getting higher and higher. This totally caught me wrong, because I predicted on the MKII forum that when the dust settled, they would go back down and the price would be just a bit over retail if not less, Boy was I wrong on that one !! Not too many contemporary watches actually appreciate in value right off, but this was definitely one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Bill Yao has a cult following. He makes great watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archierocks Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 theres one on the bay just now sitting at 1200 pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 theres one on the bay just now sitting at 1200 pounds A gen or a rep ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I think he meant a Bill Yao Kingston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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